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Gloucestershire / Donnington, Glos Baptism Help
« on: Friday 20 February 26 13:24 GMT (UK)  »

Mystery solved ...

Thank you


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Sunday 08 February 26 14:01 GMT (UK)  »

Hi 4b2

it comes down to this:  if my 3xggmother had a child with another man (let's call him Fred), not my 3xggfather, I would be a half-whatever and wouldn't share any DNA with my Fred's descendants. Would I?   

The marriage cert might be a red herring, it might not.  I won't know.  I posted to check out my thinking (obviously didn't explain it clearly enough, apologies) because I so wanted to have found a match that would be proof.  Instead, I've got another mystery.  That's family history ...

 ;D ;D

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 21:26 GMT (UK)  »


I've got ProTools so I'm getting matches down to 8cM but I've none for this family except for that one possible match via Charles.  There are two shared matches but neither have a tree. 

Ive added Charles to the online tree so ThruLines might throw up something.  In the meantime Ill go back to old fashioned paper and pen for the match, just in case ...

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 18:28 GMT (UK)  »

This one DNA match is the ONLY match that looked possible for that family which is why it's important.  It's looking more like the match isn't to Sarah's family, the connection is probably coincidentally, so I'll have to dig deeper into the his tree. 

Thanks for all the thoughts. It's been useful.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 17:40 GMT (UK)  »

Hi, I've ProTool for the mo, but I'm not sure how it would help me identify the parental match - I'm probably being thick!  The 10cM match is via my paternal line, which is right, but that's the only parental link.  Is there another trick? 

I've drafted a tree for Charles and it goes back a long way but so far hasn't come up with any other link to my ancestors.  I will have to dig a bit deeper.

My ancestor and Sarah, Charles possible illegitimate daughter, are half sisters, shared mothers but different fathers, but the match is linked to one of Charles' legitimate daughters with his wife.

Thanks for the thoughts... 

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 15:32 GMT (UK)  »

It's complicated, isn't it...

My DNA match is directly related to Charles through a daughter with his wife.  From the match's extensive tree Charles is the most likely match as he is in a village my ancestor lived in too. But, Sarah, illegitimate half sister to my 2xggrandmother, stated Charles was her father on her marriage certificate which, along with the DNA match, could provide proof of a connection.  However, when I've put it all into Family Historian, it says the match is no direct relation to me.  Obviously the software doesn't take DNA into account hence my query - am I trying to make something fit when it shouldn't?

Of course I could be related to Charles through another line altogether but I've no idea how.  I've drafted his tree back as far as I can go and nothing crops up.  Ho hum!

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 12:39 GMT (UK)  »


Well, that's the problem - I've plotted it all out on Family Historian and it says 'no relationship' which I'm not sure I should expect for illegitimate links.  On the other hand, I have a number of DNA matches for which there are no paper trail - more illegitimacies I expect.  I don't know what to think.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 11:32 GMT (UK)  »
Ah yes, I meant ancestor!  Silly me. 

There are several points to know but I really wanted to know if the 10cM link is possible?  I think it's unlikely but on the surface, it's the simplest explanation.

First, the marriage took place in London and by then the 'father' had died.  Second, the family were a scandal in the village and people probably did know - the mother had a handful of children, all with different fathers.  Third, only one 'father' is known for certain as he took his child into his home and raised her.  There isn't any record concerning Sarah's birth.  Fourth, my ancestor made up a father's name for her marriage certificate and her own illegitimate daughter used the same name when she got married, so you can see why I'm not sure Charles IS the father.  Except I do have this 10cM match. 

Thanks for the thoughts.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Wishful Thinking?
« on: Friday 06 February 26 08:12 GMT (UK)  »

I hope this will make sense:

I have a 10cM match to someone who is a direct descendant of Charles. 

Charles was named as father by Sarah on her marriage certificate.  They lived in the same village but there is no other evidence for paternity.  Sarah is my direct descendent's half sister, they share a mother.  Is this proof for my DNA match or just wishful thinking? 

Thank you  ;D

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