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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Sunday 16 March 25 15:25 GMT (UK)  »
I was looking at this again and wondered anyone had any thoughts on the details below.
 
Harrys original entry on the 1939 register had 10 feb 1904 for his DOB, which is what I had, it is amended (written above) at some later date as 3rd of January 1914 This is struck through in red and you are directed to a further page where it has the 10.02.1904 DOB also has M (married) – his 1921 census age also suggests feb 1904.

On the amended first entry (above) it has FFB above the M – married entry, after a little research FFB is the area code for south Durham – Billingham, where harry and Ida lived!

Not sure if this could relate to anything, a first marriage? Or his marriage to Ida in 1953?

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Sunday 21 July 24 09:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Sunday 21 July 24 08:37 BST (UK)
The 1939 entry shows M against his marital status

Thank You. I guess I will never know for sure if Harry was married previous to Ida, not really a big deal for me, many thanks for all the information on this thread.

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Sunday 21 July 24 07:27 BST (UK)  »
I have received Harry and Ida’s marriage certificate, on it, it says Harry’s “condition” (marital status) is BATCHELOR. Was his 1939 information MARRIED?
Info
26TH December 1953 - Harry Warner – 49 years – Boiler erector – Address – Edward Warner (Deceased) – boilermaker.

Ida Temperley – 41 years – Widow – chemical process worker – Address – Walter Jones (Deceased)

Interesting that Harry never spoke of his family to anyone, ever. Before he died, he flatly refused to make a will (died intestate, not a poor man), This all seems to tally with the information I know of them and info on this thread (apparently his farther was not dead).

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Friday 12 July 24 09:43 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: CaroleW on Friday 12 July 24 08:52 BST (UK)
Yes it would but it would still leave the question of who he married before Ida.   The 1939 entry I mentioned only confirms marital status but no wife with him. 

Do you know if he had any children before he married Ida as their birth registrations would give their mothers maiden name?

It would be a good idea to get that 1953 marriage cert anyway as it would confirm his father was Edward.  Whilst his birthdate on the 1999 death matches the March qtr 1904 birth etc - there are 2 other births in the next quarter.  If his birth was registered after 31st March 1904 there is always the possibility he could be a different Harry Warner.

As far as I understand, he had no children, him and Ida definitely did not. My guess is he was widowed, he was an absolute gent, I’d be surprised if he had divorced. I will order the certificate and post back, is a pdf of a marriage possible from the GRO? I think I have the correct GRO info.

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Friday 12 July 24 07:32 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for ALL the replies (appreciated), some interesting information on Harrys family, ordering the marriage certificate of him and Ida is a very good idea (heywood, thanks), I assume this should/would give Widowed/divorced etc?   

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heywood on Thursday 11 July 24 16:30 BST (UK)
The 1999 death, Stockton, Durham gives a birthdate 20th February 1904.

1911- Family Search is confusing as Annie Warner is a boarder with Harry and Maggie, 10 yrs.
Annie is transcribed wrongly.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49H-8MQ

Thank you, so Maggie (Margaret) and Annie should be Warner? living with the Jacksons?

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Lancashire / Re: Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:11 BST (UK)  »
I have no idea why, but my hyperlinks are not working on the above!

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Lancashire / Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life
« on: Thursday 11 July 24 16:08 BST (UK)  »
I’m trying to piece together Harry Warner’s early life and any marriages before he married – Ida Temperley (Jones) in 1953, him and his wife Ida were part of my extended family I knew/met them when I was a little lad.
as far as I know Harry was born in Preston Lancashire. 10.2.1904. to 10.5.1999 (Middlesbrough).
I’m using Familysearch, I was researching his wife (mainly)Ida Jones Marriage(s) (rootschat.com)
came across this Harry Warner in household of George Jackson, "England and Wales Census, 1911" • FamilySearch  Which is confusing me a lot (doesn’t take much),
his parents Edward and Annie, I have found (I think) in 1901 Edward Warner in household of Elizabeth Turner, "England and Wales Census, 1901" • FamilySearch
I can’t find any record of harry or any of their other children Edward Warner (1877–Deceased), Annie Rowland (1878–Deceased) • Landscape View • Family Tree • FamilySearch or them, on the 1911 census (more than likely me).
Would someone be kind enough to have a look for me please, and more interesting if harry married before Ida? as I am getting absolutely nowhere with it.

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Ida Jones Marriage(s)
« on: Sunday 17 March 24 08:40 GMT (UK)  »
I have had time to revisit this, would someone be able to help/advise further please as I am getting nowhere and a little confused.
With all the help from my original post, I have Ida’s marriage history.
I am trying to conclude Harry’s, from this thread it would seem he was married prior to his marriage to Ida?
Trying to fathom Harrys early history I am confused by this https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X49H-8MQ (Referencing to post 12?).  IF this is the correct Harry Warner?
I know nothing of Harry’s early life, I am now intrigued by it.

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