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Roxburghshire / Re: Help with Haldanes of Hawick
« on: Monday 19 November 18 15:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

Thank you all for your support and input, it looks like Robert's family to me also.

Coincidently, there was another Andrew Haldane around the same area who also married a second time to another Isabella and I think that this threw me a bit.

Anyway thank again for all your help.


Derek

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Roxburghshire / Re: Help with Haldanes of Hawick
« on: Sunday 18 November 18 17:40 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica,
Now attached and thanks again.

Regards
Derek

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Roxburghshire / Re: Help with Haldanes of Hawick
« on: Sunday 18 November 18 16:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Monica and Mabel,

Thanks for the quick response.

No,  http://wrightgenealogy.com/andrewhaldane.html? is not my site but I have an Ancestry account and further information can be viewed here -

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/154084716/family

Yes, Prudence and Elizabeth were the first born but both died from scarlet fever in 1875.

The 1851 Census entry for Robert's alledged father - Andrew Haldane 28 Blacksmith Master 2 Chen (?spl) b. Ancrum, roxburgh - 2 Chen is actually 2 Men - is all what I've got and with no mention of Robert.


There's also the issues of the multiple pronounciations of the surname Haldane which doesn't really help in cross referencing the census entries so too regarding the Scotting statutory register for BDM's. There are Holdon, Holdane, Haldan, Halden


For example I am nearly certain this is Robert (HOldane) in the 1871 England Census for the Settle to Carlisle railway at Mallerstang, Westmorland - ED: 14, Schedule: 60, Piece: 5271, Folio: 67, Page: 16, since at the time of his wedding in 1870 his occupation is given as a Railway Labourer. But I have nothing else for the Census years 1851 and 1861.

I'm still trying to decipher an Andrew Holdon's death certificate as he was married twice it seems. First to an Elizabeth Welsh b1825 d12/5/1860 then to a Isabella Carson nee Scott b1814 they married 4/7/1862. In the death certificate there are 2 named entries for his former partners Elizabeth and Isabella but am having difficulty in determining the Elizabeth surname.


Yes the 1901 Census for Robert Henry Haldane was a strange one, why did he and the rest of the family change to Middleton and why drop the Robert and use Henry instead.

I only stumbled across it while browsing through the Census for that particular area of Barrhead for another branch of the Haldane family.


I just need to know more about the Middleton name connection which seems important to him - and me!


Thanks and regards


Derek




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Roxburghshire / Help with Haldanes of Hawick
« on: Saturday 17 November 18 15:15 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Folks,

I am having difficulty in trying to find my great great great grandfather - Robert Henry Haldane born about 1847 in Hawick, Roxburghshire.

According to his marriage certificate his father was Andrew Haldane and his mother Elizabeth Middleton and both were deceased when Robert married Jane McIlwee in Neilston, Renfrewshire on 4th April 1870.

Searches on IGI etc. reveal nothing for his birth entry and nothing again for the census years 1851 and 1861. I have everything else from there on.

Confusingly, his death certificate 12 Jan 1906 states his father as Robert Haldane and his mother as Elizabeth Nicol but I am assuming his son John who reported the death was unsure of Robert's father and mother since they were deceased before he was born.

Any assistance would be very valuable.

Thanks and regards

Derek S Haldane

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