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London and Middlesex / Re: Coles Regiment of Foot Guard
« on: Sunday 16 February 25 02:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Hanes
Very useful information in your last post.  I will definitely follow this up.
Many thanks
Chris

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London and Middlesex / Re: Coles Regiment of Foot Guard
« on: Saturday 15 February 25 04:52 GMT (UK)  »
Shaun, Hanes
Thank you all very much for replying to my enquiry.
Shaun, Hanes -  I have located 3 variations of the marriage entry, one referred to Coles Regt of Foot Guards, another simply as soldier and the third and most likely the original mentioned what I thought was John Coles but was actually Robin Swoles.   My sincere thanks for clarifying this for me.   It was suggested to me sometime ago that "Willyats" or "Wittyats" was the name of the minister and Hanes has now confirmed this (thank you). 
Dave, Andy – Samuel’s military records are a definite bonus, especially now that I know that Col Robinson Swole was the correct name to research.  Third Marine Regiment connection is interesting as Samuel ultimately set up a very lucrative fishing tackle business in London about 1763.  This date appears to coincide with his discharge from the army.   The birth place of Oswestry is intriguing and somewhat confusing though.  The line of Chevaliers I am interested in were Huguenots.  Working backwards I have traced the line back to 1749 when Samuel & Elizabeth had a daughter Elizabeth bpt at Newcastle upon Tyne & a son James in 1754 at Berwick upon Tweed.  I thought these locations would correspond to approx. placements of the 11th but apparently not.  However, it does look as though Elizabeth Godfroy was an army wife.
So why Oswestry if the family were Huguenots?  I believe both Newport and Gloucester were Huguenot enclaves specialising in textiles so it is possible Samuel’s family spread out from there but it is still quite a distance between Oswestry & Gloucester, let alone Newport.  This is something I need to look at more closely.
I have done a separate DNA study on shared matches for 3 of Samuel & Elizabeth’s descendants.  The matches, all from Quebec, Canada are pointing to an origin area around Coutances and St Lo, Manche, Basse-Normandie, France.  Coutances is near the coast quite close to Jersey, Channel Isles.
All very interesting.
Once again, my sincere thanks Chris


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London and Middlesex / Re: Coles Regiment of Foot Guard
« on: Friday 14 February 25 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone
I have just seen the incredible overnight response to my enquiry..  it certainly makes it worthwhile when you ask the right people.  I haven’t had a chance to look at each reply in detail yet but will do so shortly (I need to digest the information and potentially what it means to my research).

Rootschat Researchers Rule
Chris

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London and Middlesex / Coles Regiment of Foot Guard
« on: Friday 14 February 25 06:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Not sure if this is the correct forum for my enquiry, so apologies if not.  I have a marriage in Fleet St, London dated 1746 which confirms that the groom Samuel Chevalier was a soldier in John Coles Regiment of Foot Guard.  This does not appear to have been a well known Regiment (not Coldstream apparently).  Does anyone know anything more about it? 

The marriage took place 1 week before Culloden.  I have placed Samuel & his wife in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1749 and wondered if the regiment had been posted there as a precaution. 

Any help would be very much appreciated.
All the best
Chris, NSW,Aust

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Thanks for the advice.  There are a couple of 16cMs on the Quebec side.  On Sarah’s UK side there are no DNA matches from any of her supposed ancestral lines, which still makes me think I have the wrong parentage for her.  As suggested, I intend to go back to the drawing board and start again.  Thanks very much for your help.
Chris

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Current US citizens with Quebec ancestry?  Most of the area relating to the Quebec line was in and around Montreal. 
Chris

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Didn't know about France banning DNA.  The DNA I referred to would be coming from Ancestry contributors.
Chris

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Hi Southsea Steel
Thank you for replying to my posting.  In Sarah's case, DNA has confirmed who the father of her son was, so I know that he was descended from an English family from Chippenham, Wilts.  However, just posting my Chevalier problem has helped me to consider another perspective.

I have been focussed on the lack of weavers in Chevalier line without considering the possibility that the weavers were from one of the Chevalier maternal lines.  If this is the case, then the story of weavers in the family may be correct.  Sarah's mother Sarah Parkes, bn ca 1788 may well have played in the fields of Rouen if her name had been anglicised from Parques for example, but I have no further information on Sarah Parkes to confirm this.  I do know that Sarah's son William spoke French, so there must have been some sort of contact between him & Sarah's family.  In any case, none of this explains the lack of DNA from England.

All the best
Chris, NSW, Aust.

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Hi David
Firstly, thank you for replying to my posting.

Sarah is my 5Grt grandmother, so I would expect the 5-8 C range for the Quebec matches.  However, Ancestry are showing these matches in the 4C range which I don't believe is correct (DNA Painter is showing a more realistic 5C plus range).  I am inclined to agree with Timber in that the Quebec matches are more reflective of a regional location and possibly endogamy, rather than a direct ancestral descent.  The Quebec line goes back to the "filles du roi" era of Louis XIV and there is sufficient information on these girls to enable a degree of accuracy.  The genealogy in the Quebec case appears to have originated from Normandie, Fr. 

The info passed down through the family descended from Sarah's only known child suggests that her family were Huguenot silk weavers and that her mother played in the fields around Rouen.  There is no evidence in my research to indicate that there were any weavers in the Chevalier family (James Chevalier, sp. Sarah Parkes was a cabinet maker, his father James ditto and grandfather Samuel possibly a soldier in the Coldstream Guard in 1746, then a fishing tackle maker).  Sarah Parkes is a dead end but it is possible that Parkes was anglicised from Parques.  In any case Sarah would have been an Emigre not a Huguenot.  Hence my dilemma.  I might add that people have been looking for Sarah since the 1960's and I now suspect after unknown hundreds of hours of research, she may remain an enigma.  A researcher specialising in London research failed to come up with anything conclusive on her either.
All the best
Chris, NSW Aust.

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