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Travelling People / Re: Lee Romany's - Kent
« on: Monday 05 February 24 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
I have found a birth record that I believe may be that of your great-grandmother Annie.
I was intrigued by the information you provided and I wondered what happened to Eddie’s mother, Sabina Scamp, as I could not find a death record for her.
In my experience of researching my own traveller ancestors, I found they sometimes had a tendency to use different names, so I began to wonder if Sabina Scamp and Elizabeth Lee were actually the same person.
With this in mind, I searched Kent birth records of the period using the surname Scamp and found:
Mary Ann Scamp born 26th July 1908 in Blean, Kent. The mother is Sabina Scamp, a hawker. No father is listed but this is not surprising as her parents were not legally married at the time of her birth (also very common amongst travellers of the period). I believe this also points to Annie and Eddie being full siblings, not step siblings.
I have tried to attach the pdf for you to view. I hope this helps.

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Travelling People / Re: Jones family, hawkers, Dartford area of Kent
« on: Monday 25 July 22 19:28 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I realise this is an old post but I only came across it recently whilst looking for information about my own travelling ancestors from Sussex and Kent. I believe I may have found the birth registration of your ancestor Ann Jones, though she is listed under a different surname.

On the 1881 census, Ann is married to John Eastwood are they are living in Dartford, Kent with three children. I searched for the birth records of these three children and found:

- Harriet    born 1862, Dartford, Kent - mother REYNOLDS
- John       born 1864, Dartford, Kent - mother REYNOLDS
- Caroline  born 1866, West Ham, Essex - mother REYNOLDS (listed incorrectly on census)

Interestingly, though she gave her surname as Jones when she married, she gave her surname as Reynolds when registering her children.

Armed with this, I looked for your ancestor’s birth record using the name Ann Reynolds and found:

Ann Reynolds born 1839, Dartford, Kent - mother JONES

I have seen this with my own travelling ancestors where they seem to use both their mother’s or their father’s surname interchangeably so I felt I was on the right track.

I decided to see if there were any other Reynolds children with mother Jones born around the same time and place. I found three:

- John Reynolds born 1840 Malling, Kent
- Phoebe Reynolds born 1841 Sevenoaks, Kent
- Sarah Reynolds born 1850 Sevenoaks, Kent

Of significant interest, I also found a baptismal record for Phoebe:

Phoebe Reynolds
Baptised 3 Jan 1841
St Martin’s Church, Brasted, Kent
Parents: George Reynolds (Tramp?) & Charlotte

The father’s name George and the occupation listed as (query) tramp lead me to believe that is the correct family.

So, to sum up - I believe your ancestor Ann Jones was born:

Ann Reynolds in 1839 in Dartford, Kent the daughter of George Reynolds and Charlotte Jones and that she had at least three siblings.

Sorry if I have just given you a load of information that you no longer need but I have been stuck indoors with covid and found this a relaxing way to pass the time 😂

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