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Fermanagh / Re: Maguires of Aghyoule
« on: Friday 18 January 19 17:45 GMT (UK)  »
Dear KG

Thanks for sending this to me.  Yes this is my GGM Margaret Mc Kenna but I cant find her father Richard and mother Mary anywhere.....I have Richard's death certificate but frustrating as he died in July 1901 and the Irish census was carried out in March 1901 but I cant find him anywhere.   He died in Kilnaleck aged 80 but he may have been in an institution.  I have tried his initials but still cant find him.  If I could just find him on the census I would know where he was born and that would be a great help.  Planning a visit to Cavan in July so may turn up something from graveyards or parish records there.  Meanwhile researching the Maguire clan furhter back in the hope of finding a connection.  Thanks again ...much appreciated  :)

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Fermanagh / Re: Maguires of Aghyoule
« on: Friday 18 January 19 16:48 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Rathmore

Thank you very much for your reply.  This is indeed my GGM Margaret Mc Kenna who applied to the census of 1851 ( the record says 1851 and 1841 when you open it) for proof of her DOB as she turned 70 in 1917 and needed proof of her age to claim her pension.  I had found this ..cant remember now where but thank you for looking and passing on the information.

Kind regards

Annemarie


















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Fermanagh / Re: Maguires of Aghyoule
« on: Tuesday 08 January 19 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rusty

Thank you so much.  I dont quite know how to research that far back but going to give it a go.  I have read the first 20 pages of the Maguires of Fermanagh and it is fascinating.  So even if I  never find my Richard Maguire I will have a fantastic overview of the Maguires.  Are you a Maguire?  I have been  focused on the micro climate but the macro climate is even more interesting.  Thanks again.  Annemarie   :D

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Fermanagh / Re: Maguires of Aghyoule
« on: Friday 04 January 19 13:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Hallmark.  I had already looked at the nli records but decided to look again 1 year before her birth year 1847 and 9 years after as there were some discrepancies on her death cert and census return.  No luck again and this time I was looking just for her parents in case she had been baptised one name and then known as a different name.....I also tried the nli records for Knockninny they dont start until 1855.  I have trees on Ancestry and My Heritage and have even subscribed briefly to Roots Ireland but cannot find her anywhere.  Unfortunately I live in the middle east so not easy to pop into the local historical society to see if they can help.. Appreciate your help nevertheless.  Thank you.   :)I was hoping someone might have known the Maguire family in Aghyoule.  Long shot I know but when desperate....One thing in my favour is that there are not that many Richard Maguires around but boy was I glad I was not looking for a Lynch/Smith or Reilly! 

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Fermanagh / Maguires of Aghyoule
« on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:11 GMT (UK)  »
Having been reading some posts it seems that there are some people here with a fantastic knowledge of this part of Fermanagh.  My great great grandfather was called Richard Maguire born 1821 died in 1901 in Kilnaleck Co Cavan and is listed as a fruit dealer.   He was married to Mary (Extract from the 1851 census)  and was living in Kilnaleck in 1856 (Griffiths valuation)  His daughter Margaret is my great grandmother and I cant find a record of her birth in 1847 tho maybe not surprising as this would have been mid famine as was hoping to find her mothers maiden name but no luck.  I have recently found a record for a Pat and Ann Maguire born 1839 and 1845 respectively to Mary and Richard Maguire in Aghyoule Knockninny Co Fermanagh which is not far over the border from Kilnaleck.  Wondering if this could be the same Richard and Mary?  Family lore says the Maguires came from Northern Ireland and were connected to flax.  I know Kinawley/ Knockninny was a big flax growing area so have a feeling I may be on to something.  Be very grateful if anyone has any inside information on the families living in Aghyoule around 1840.  BTW my GGM Margaret married William Mc Kenna who was a baker and they had a shop in Kilnaleck.  Many thanks in anticipation.  Annemarie  :)

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Dublin / Re: Robertville, Avondale Tce Harolds X Rd (1911) now 321 -347 Harolds X Rd
« on: Wednesday 03 October 18 12:24 BST (UK)  »
Just in case anyone else is looking for Robertville in 1901 Census I have had clarification of the position and numbering with huge thanks to Jim Curtis and the Rathmines Historical Society.  See below:

There are now thirty houses at the Terenure end of Harold's Cross Road, numbered 291-349, and these were originally in two separate terraces, Abercorn Terrace built around 1868, and Avondale Terrace (with bay windows) built around 1885.  The small gap between these two terraces was filled-in around 1890 with two houses, called 1 and 2 Robert-ville.  Initially, this locality was in the Rathmines Township, and after 1930 was controlled by Dublin Corporation, at which stage the two Robertville houses were listed as 321 and 323 Harold's Cross Road.

In the 1901 Census, this area was listed as "Harolds Cross Road (part of)", and No 1 Robertville was listed as House No 28, and No 2 Robertville was listed as House No 29.  in the 1911 Census, No 1 and 2 Robertville are specifically listed.

And so it turns out my GGF William Smyth was living there in 1916.  Cant believe I missed that as an option.  Many thanks to all for your help particularly Dathai.... It was much appreciated. 

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Dublin / Re: Robertville, Avondale Tce Harolds X Rd (1911) now 321 -347 Harolds X Rd
« on: Wednesday 19 September 18 11:47 BST (UK)  »
Think I got a bit carried away with my GGG's there!  Should be William was my GGF and Dorothy my GGGM!!!

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Dublin / Re: Robertville, Avondale Tce Harolds X Rd (1911) now 321 -347 Harolds X Rd
« on: Wednesday 19 September 18 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Gosh you have set me thinking.... ???So good to have another head at this stage.  My logic was that whoever was writing from Robertville to Australia knew my GGGF had become asst superintendent of the GPO and that happened about 1899 so I made the assumption that they were living there after 1899.  The letter was written in 1945 from my GGGGM daughter to one of her nieces.  She mentioned Robertville as being the last known address but no name of the correspondent.  The letter also tells that my GGGF William was left with his aunt Smyth who changed his name.  Once I saw the name Josephine Smyth on the 1911 census I thought that's it and once I had found the (incorrect) marriage cert for James Smyth and Mary Carroll showing George Smyth as his father I was convinced I was on the right track but that document says George Smyth was a farmer and my GGGF's marriage cert says George was a car owner so I should have been suspicious.  I don't recognise any of the names mentioned in your mesage but then I don't know what Dorothy Pennefather's real  name was.  She certainly doest seem to exist anywhere that I can find.  I have had my DNA tested on Ancestry so I may look to see if I can find any DNA links to Parsons or Jamesons (I found the Pennefather connection through DNA) .  Interesting that they were CoI.  I was convinced that I was looking  for someone who was CoI or had a CoI marriage in their background. My logic was if you left a baby with a Catholic family in Dublin then they would  bring that child up Catholic with their other children.  William considered himself CoI and was married in a CoI church.  Family lore has it that he was disinherited because he married a catholic.  He certainly did not have any family or relatives and my grandmother was the only one of his children to marry.  So we have no cousins to question and all the family papers appear to have been thrown away.  I did find a family called Fehan who lived in Robertville from 1928- 1932 approx.  My GGGGM died in 1909 but I dont know how long the correspondence kept up.  sorry for the long message and thank you for reading and your interest in this mystery.  Still I have made a start and some progress (with your valuable help) and I am determined to crack this.  :) :) 

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Dublin / Re: Robertville, Avondale Tce Harolds X Rd (1911) now 321 -347 Harolds X Rd
« on: Tuesday 18 September 18 12:22 BST (UK)  »
I think I have them muddled up....well spotted!  I will have to go back to basics.
My link is with Josephine who was living at Robertville aged 17 in 1911.  I have a letter stating that someone was writing from that address.
The only Josephine who would have been about 7 in 1910 and living in Dublin is the daughter of James and Mary Carroll living in Sandwith Terrace South Dock.  There are 6 children on the 1901 census but I checked the 1911 census and it states that 10 children were born on which 8 are living.  I  have today found two more children James 1884 and Mary Margaret 1882 born before 1886 so I think the marriage cert for James Smyth policeman is not right and the one for James Smith coachman is correct.  I think Anne was born just before Kathleen and CJ is from the other couple. The marriage date of 1800 would make more sense with no children born out of wedlock.  However my GGF William Smyth put his 'father' name on his birth cert as George Smyth.  This was not his birth father but his 'adopted' family but the coachman has Luke as his father which blows my nice link apart......oh well.... maybe the next round of searching will throw up some Smyth siblings or a link to Dorothy Pennefather.  Thanks for all the links.  I have used the NLI and Glasnevin index but there are others I was  not aware of so all good intelligence.  Go raibh mile maith agait!!! :) :) :)  No idea what Bridget Doyle Bray 1948 means unless he put it on the wrong line...

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