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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Thursday 06 September 18 11:03 BST (UK) »
Hi first time on this wonderful site, visitor from the Netherlands.
In my paternal line I have an ancestor who could be of Romani ethnicity. The only thing I know is that he (Peter FRANCIS) is born around 1827 in the (nowadays) county Haromszek, Transilvania , Romania. So after doing a DNA test for my dad and his sister (my aunt) I was curious on the results in GedMatch. BTW we are Eurasians (60% Indonesia, 40 % Europe).
I also have a Romanian friend whose 4 grandparents are born in Romania and according to her are Non-Roma and we uploaded her DNA kit also to Gedmatch for comparison.
I used the calculators that have Roma, Romani and/or Romanian-b_behar as ethnicity in Oracle4
and indeed those ethnicities are mentioned specifically for my dad/aunt and not for her. So I guess that a) the ethnicity will show up in gedmatch by using the right calculators and b) my ancestor is indeed descended from Romani.
What do you think?
Below are the results for the used calculators in Gedmatch<
MDLP K-23b
Eurasian Romanian
Austronesian 27,80
South_East_Asian 24,01 1,20
Caucasian 12,21 32,21
European_Early_Farmers 10,00 41,35
European_Hunters_Gatherers 9,03 13,17
South_Indian 6,75
South_Central_Asian 2,66 3,61
Near_East 2,05 3,12
North_African 1,70
Australoid 1,42
Eurasian
50% Dai + 50% ROMA_SLOVENIAN @7,5
50% Dai + 25% French + 25% ROMA_BH @2,7
50% Dai + 25% Murut + 25% ROMA_BH @2,7
Romanian
50% Central_Greek_ + 50% Latvian_ @2,9
50% Belarusian-East_ +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +25% North_German_ @2,5
25% Ukranian-Center_ +50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +25% Swede_ @2,2
==============================================================
HarrappaWorld
Eurasian Romanian
SE-Asian 46,57
NE-Euro 13,06 47,57
Mediterranean 10,92 21,32
Caucasian 9,88 18,04
S-Indian 5,66
SW-Asian 3,94 2,91
Baloch 2,39 7,50
Siberian 1,83
NE-Asian 3,07
Papuan 1,93
Beringian 0,62
Eurasian
50% Iban_Xing + 50% Romanian-a_behar @6,7
50% Iban_Xing + 25% Morocco-Jew + 25% ROMANIAN-B_BEHAR @6,0
50% Iban_Xing + 25% French + 25% ROMANIAN-B_BEHAR @6,0
Romanian
50% romanian-a_behar +50% ukranian_yunusbayev @2,0
50% serbian_harappa +25% slovenian_xing +25% ukranian_yunusbayev @1,2
25% hungarian_behar + 25% serbian_harappa + 25% serbian_harappa + 25% ukranian_yunusbayev @0,7
==============================================================
PuntDNAL K13 Global
Eurasian Romanian
SE-Asia 31,68 1,01
SW-Europe 16,33 28,82
NE-Asia 17,46
NE-Europe 12,77 47,03
South_Asia 8,37
West_Asia 5,70 13,87
SW_Asia 4,35 6,19
Oceania 1,96
Siberia 1,47
Eurasian
50% Luzon + 50% ROMANI @8,7
50% Luzon + 25% Spaniard + 25% ROMANI @5,0
25% Luzon+ 25% Dusun + 25% Spaniard + 25% ROMANI @4,1
Romanian
50% Macedonian + 50% Russian @1,8
50% Estonian +25% French_ +25% Turkish @1,5
25% Estonian+25% Greek_Central+25% Russian + 25% Serbian @1,4
In my paternal line I have an ancestor who could be of Romani ethnicity. The only thing I know is that he (Peter FRANCIS) is born around 1827 in the (nowadays) county Haromszek, Transilvania , Romania. So after doing a DNA test for my dad and his sister (my aunt) I was curious on the results in GedMatch. BTW we are Eurasians (60% Indonesia, 40 % Europe).
I also have a Romanian friend whose 4 grandparents are born in Romania and according to her are Non-Roma and we uploaded her DNA kit also to Gedmatch for comparison.
I used the calculators that have Roma, Romani and/or Romanian-b_behar as ethnicity in Oracle4
and indeed those ethnicities are mentioned specifically for my dad/aunt and not for her. So I guess that a) the ethnicity will show up in gedmatch by using the right calculators and b) my ancestor is indeed descended from Romani.
What do you think?
Below are the results for the used calculators in Gedmatch<
MDLP K-23b
Eurasian Romanian
Austronesian 27,80
South_East_Asian 24,01 1,20
Caucasian 12,21 32,21
European_Early_Farmers 10,00 41,35
European_Hunters_Gatherers 9,03 13,17
South_Indian 6,75
South_Central_Asian 2,66 3,61
Near_East 2,05 3,12
North_African 1,70
Australoid 1,42
Eurasian
50% Dai + 50% ROMA_SLOVENIAN @7,5
50% Dai + 25% French + 25% ROMA_BH @2,7
50% Dai + 25% Murut + 25% ROMA_BH @2,7
Romanian
50% Central_Greek_ + 50% Latvian_ @2,9
50% Belarusian-East_ +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +25% North_German_ @2,5
25% Ukranian-Center_ +50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast_ +25% Swede_ @2,2
==============================================================
HarrappaWorld
Eurasian Romanian
SE-Asian 46,57
NE-Euro 13,06 47,57
Mediterranean 10,92 21,32
Caucasian 9,88 18,04
S-Indian 5,66
SW-Asian 3,94 2,91
Baloch 2,39 7,50
Siberian 1,83
NE-Asian 3,07
Papuan 1,93
Beringian 0,62
Eurasian
50% Iban_Xing + 50% Romanian-a_behar @6,7
50% Iban_Xing + 25% Morocco-Jew + 25% ROMANIAN-B_BEHAR @6,0
50% Iban_Xing + 25% French + 25% ROMANIAN-B_BEHAR @6,0
Romanian
50% romanian-a_behar +50% ukranian_yunusbayev @2,0
50% serbian_harappa +25% slovenian_xing +25% ukranian_yunusbayev @1,2
25% hungarian_behar + 25% serbian_harappa + 25% serbian_harappa + 25% ukranian_yunusbayev @0,7
==============================================================
PuntDNAL K13 Global
Eurasian Romanian
SE-Asia 31,68 1,01
SW-Europe 16,33 28,82
NE-Asia 17,46
NE-Europe 12,77 47,03
South_Asia 8,37
West_Asia 5,70 13,87
SW_Asia 4,35 6,19
Oceania 1,96
Siberia 1,47
Eurasian
50% Luzon + 50% ROMANI @8,7
50% Luzon + 25% Spaniard + 25% ROMANI @5,0
25% Luzon+ 25% Dusun + 25% Spaniard + 25% ROMANI @4,1
Romanian
50% Macedonian + 50% Russian @1,8
50% Estonian +25% French_ +25% Turkish @1,5
25% Estonian+25% Greek_Central+25% Russian + 25% Serbian @1,4