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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Saturday 11 May 19 03:09 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I just saw your reply just now. Are you referring to David Michael born 1727 in Germany?
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Thursday 04 April 19 03:32 BST (UK) »
Hello dkahn,
I was so excited when I saw your posting! I too have done extensive research on the Michael family, as my Grandmother's name was Florence Michael related to the Michael's from Swansea, Wales. I have been researching for about a year, the furthest I can trace back is to David Michael, who married Rachell Griffiths. I'm curious to know if you have any pictures and if you know anything further about David who was born 1727 or Rachell?
Also, how are you related to this family?
Thank you so much for reaching out,
Susan
I was so excited when I saw your posting! I too have done extensive research on the Michael family, as my Grandmother's name was Florence Michael related to the Michael's from Swansea, Wales. I have been researching for about a year, the furthest I can trace back is to David Michael, who married Rachell Griffiths. I'm curious to know if you have any pictures and if you know anything further about David who was born 1727 or Rachell?
Also, how are you related to this family?
Thank you so much for reaching out,
Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Sunday 09 September 18 14:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie! Take a look at this!! .......
https://niblettjohn.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=niblettjohn&view=9&ver=40305
I found it last night (late) and if you look for David Michael you can see the first page of his written will!! I guess I was expecting it to be typewritten (as I knew it was available for purchase), but then, typewriters did not exist back then! ... can you imagine writing this with pen/ink via candle light? Very very difficult to decipher, if you enlarge, makes it a bit easier.
Think some of the dates are incorrect? .... but very interesting nonetheless!
Enjoy!
Susan
https://niblettjohn.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=niblettjohn&view=9&ver=40305
I found it last night (late) and if you look for David Michael you can see the first page of his written will!! I guess I was expecting it to be typewritten (as I knew it was available for purchase), but then, typewriters did not exist back then! ... can you imagine writing this with pen/ink via candle light? Very very difficult to decipher, if you enlarge, makes it a bit easier.
Think some of the dates are incorrect? .... but very interesting nonetheless!
Enjoy!
Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Sunday 09 September 18 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie!
I haven't heard any advertisements for a while now for 'free' access on Ancestry, they used to advise on radio and tv frequently, especially if a long weekend was approaching, especially for Family Day in February, but haven't heard anything for a while. And they only open certain passages, last time it was UK records and this is when I got quite a bit info on the Michaels. If you like, I can send you the screenshots I took, not sure if you want to post your email address here, but I'd be happy to send them, along with the one page I've been working on which goes back 7 generations from my Mom. I've noted b-day, date/place of marriages and burials for the ones I know. I keep adding as I go along. I'm like you, I don't really care to pay for anything, as I think I've gathered quite a bit of info on my own, you just have to keep searching which is part of the fun
It has also cooled down over here, after such a HOT summer, and I much prefer it this way. We had so many days of high humidity, I don't enjoy those days!
I was just over to London this past April, came with my daughter, granddaughter (1 year) and husband, who was attending a conference. Only stayed one week. Little did I know at the time, how close I was to all this family history. This is why I want to go back. My Father's family came from northern England, near Liverpool, which was too far to travel to at the time. I thoroughly enjoyed London ... I think it's one of my favorite places ever visited!
Yes, please keep in touch! I think it's amazing we've come in contact here!!
Have a nice day! Susan
I haven't heard any advertisements for a while now for 'free' access on Ancestry, they used to advise on radio and tv frequently, especially if a long weekend was approaching, especially for Family Day in February, but haven't heard anything for a while. And they only open certain passages, last time it was UK records and this is when I got quite a bit info on the Michaels. If you like, I can send you the screenshots I took, not sure if you want to post your email address here, but I'd be happy to send them, along with the one page I've been working on which goes back 7 generations from my Mom. I've noted b-day, date/place of marriages and burials for the ones I know. I keep adding as I go along. I'm like you, I don't really care to pay for anything, as I think I've gathered quite a bit of info on my own, you just have to keep searching which is part of the fun
It has also cooled down over here, after such a HOT summer, and I much prefer it this way. We had so many days of high humidity, I don't enjoy those days!
I was just over to London this past April, came with my daughter, granddaughter (1 year) and husband, who was attending a conference. Only stayed one week. Little did I know at the time, how close I was to all this family history. This is why I want to go back. My Father's family came from northern England, near Liverpool, which was too far to travel to at the time. I thoroughly enjoyed London ... I think it's one of my favorite places ever visited!
Yes, please keep in touch! I think it's amazing we've come in contact here!!
Have a nice day! Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Friday 07 September 18 22:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie,
Your stories are so interesting ... thanks for the info! Sounds like there were many artists within the Michael family. Solicitors and artists - much smart and talented people!
Yes, I must say, I have gathered quite a bit of info on my own, thru Ancestry on free weekends and by just searching the various sites .. it's really amazing just how much info is out there now. I think Google must add more and more info over the time!
And thinking about Jacob and Rosy, I don't think they would be buried in a Jewish cemetery, seeing as they were married in an Anglican church - their religion had obviously changed by then - such a fascinating story really. But I may be wrong, so I will keep searching
Am working on a family tree, trying to piece together everyone now that I have more info.
Hope you have a nice weekend!
Cheers! Susan
Your stories are so interesting ... thanks for the info! Sounds like there were many artists within the Michael family. Solicitors and artists - much smart and talented people!
Yes, I must say, I have gathered quite a bit of info on my own, thru Ancestry on free weekends and by just searching the various sites .. it's really amazing just how much info is out there now. I think Google must add more and more info over the time!
And thinking about Jacob and Rosy, I don't think they would be buried in a Jewish cemetery, seeing as they were married in an Anglican church - their religion had obviously changed by then - such a fascinating story really. But I may be wrong, so I will keep searching
Am working on a family tree, trying to piece together everyone now that I have more info.
Hope you have a nice weekend!
Cheers! Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Thursday 06 September 18 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie ... me again ...
Wow, I just can't believe ALL that has unfolded relating to the Michael family just within the last two months .... I had no idea all this was out there for me to discover. Yes, I actually just read two nights ago about James Lionel who was found in the river. How dreadful, same with the girl whose dress caught on fire ... that poor girl. What a hard life those people must have lived. I really wish I could meet them all and talk to them, don't you?
I have been working on a family book for a couple years now, and I lay in bed at night wondering just how to put this all together. I think I need more pages!! I find it all so intriguing and I can spend hours searching the different sites!
... I just found a picture of Lemon Hart's stone .....I googled what you said and it came up, along with a pic of him ... thanks so much .... I think I had seen it before, but at the time, didn't know of the close connection! Thank you for forwarding that info.
Also looking to find out where Lemon Hart Michael is buried, the artist, would you know?
And just reading your email again .... it was Lemon Hart Michael (the artist) who moved to Guernsey ... not Lemon Hart ..... there are too many same names here .... a bit confusing ... I have to keep referring to my Michael family sheet to ensure I have the names in correct order!
Time to make some dinner, time flies on here .... such fun!
Have a good night! Susan
Wow, I just can't believe ALL that has unfolded relating to the Michael family just within the last two months .... I had no idea all this was out there for me to discover. Yes, I actually just read two nights ago about James Lionel who was found in the river. How dreadful, same with the girl whose dress caught on fire ... that poor girl. What a hard life those people must have lived. I really wish I could meet them all and talk to them, don't you?
I have been working on a family book for a couple years now, and I lay in bed at night wondering just how to put this all together. I think I need more pages!! I find it all so intriguing and I can spend hours searching the different sites!
... I just found a picture of Lemon Hart's stone .....I googled what you said and it came up, along with a pic of him ... thanks so much .... I think I had seen it before, but at the time, didn't know of the close connection! Thank you for forwarding that info.
Also looking to find out where Lemon Hart Michael is buried, the artist, would you know?
And just reading your email again .... it was Lemon Hart Michael (the artist) who moved to Guernsey ... not Lemon Hart ..... there are too many same names here .... a bit confusing ...
I have to keep referring to my Michael family sheet to ensure I have the names in correct order!Time to make some dinner, time flies on here .... such fun!
Have a good night! Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Thursday 06 September 18 18:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie!
Thank you so much for all the info you have passed along!... all so very useful!....
My Grandmother was Florence Amy Michael, born in Guernsey. The Michaels actually moved to Guernsey for a short time and this is when my GGrandfather (Henry Lemon Michael) met and married Emily May Carre (his first wife). According to the 1881 Census, Channel Islands, Lemon Hart Michael and family lived in St. Peter's Port, Guernsey. Henry Lemon was 21 at the time and still living at home. Then, according to 1891 England Census, the Michaels had all moved back to the London area (Battersea) including Henry who had remarried by then. As I mentioned before, Henry left when my Gramma was very young, and she never saw nor heard of him again.
So Esther Mary Wakeford was Henry Lemon's second wife. His divorce to Emily was registered in 1891. I found much of this info on Ancestery one weekend when it was free. They sometimes have it free over the long weekends.
Also, forgot to mention, if you google Lemon Hart Michael, he was a great artist - one thing my Mom kept mentioning to me. I was able to find one of his paintings put up for auction, but haven't been able to find any more. There must be some floating around London area I would think!
In 1903, my Gramma (Florence Amy Michael) married Thomas Maindonald in/from Guernsey and from there they immigrated to Canada in 1907.
The Michaels were quite impressive, weren't they? .... so smart, so talented!.. artists, lawyers ...
I've been googling the Brady Street Cemetery but Lemon Hart's burial doesn't seem to be recorded. Did your daughter find his actual stone? Noticed most are in Hebrew .. . hard to pick out?.. so neat!
Would you happen to know where Jacob and Rosy are buried?
Thanks so much again, and have a nice day
Susan
Thank you so much for all the info you have passed along!... all so very useful!....
My Grandmother was Florence Amy Michael, born in Guernsey. The Michaels actually moved to Guernsey for a short time and this is when my GGrandfather (Henry Lemon Michael) met and married Emily May Carre (his first wife). According to the 1881 Census, Channel Islands, Lemon Hart Michael and family lived in St. Peter's Port, Guernsey. Henry Lemon was 21 at the time and still living at home. Then, according to 1891 England Census, the Michaels had all moved back to the London area (Battersea) including Henry who had remarried by then. As I mentioned before, Henry left when my Gramma was very young, and she never saw nor heard of him again.
So Esther Mary Wakeford was Henry Lemon's second wife. His divorce to Emily was registered in 1891. I found much of this info on Ancestery one weekend when it was free. They sometimes have it free over the long weekends.
Also, forgot to mention, if you google Lemon Hart Michael, he was a great artist - one thing my Mom kept mentioning to me. I was able to find one of his paintings put up for auction, but haven't been able to find any more. There must be some floating around London area I would think!
In 1903, my Gramma (Florence Amy Michael) married Thomas Maindonald in/from Guernsey and from there they immigrated to Canada in 1907.
The Michaels were quite impressive, weren't they? .... so smart, so talented!.. artists, lawyers ...
I've been googling the Brady Street Cemetery but Lemon Hart's burial doesn't seem to be recorded. Did your daughter find his actual stone? Noticed most are in Hebrew .. . hard to pick out?.. so neat!
Would you happen to know where Jacob and Rosy are buried?
Thanks so much again, and have a nice day
Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Thursday 06 September 18 01:51 BST (UK) »
Good morning Stephanie!
Wow, so seeing as we share Jacob & Rosy as g grandparents, we are somehow related? This is exciting! Who would ever know!!
I only came to know of my Jewish decent a couple months ago, when I googled 'Levi Michael' and a picture of his tombstone appeared, it was then when I found out he was buried in the Swansea Jewish Cemetery! From there, I was able to find out his Father's name, David, and wife Rachel from the JewishGen.org website.
Also learned David had at least 3 other siblings; Abraham, Jacob and Rosa? (from a Jewish Wills website)
I was also able to get in contact with a writer/historian who had written an article on the Swansea Jewish Cemetery "Exploring Swansea's Graveyards" who sent me some pictures of the cemetery and confirmed both Levi and wife Rosy are buried in the Swansea Cemetery. But could he not find a stone for David.
Do you know where Jacob and Rosy are buried? ..........or Lemon Hart Michael?
Lemon Hart Michael was my gg grandfather, and I'm assuming he was named after the Lemon Hart family business??!! ... seeing as his Mother was Rosy Hart? ..... wow!
I feel so honored and privileged to be part of this family - SOooo interesting - I had no idea!
My Gramma's Father, Henry Lemon Michael, left when she was only 4, so nothing much of the Michael family got passed along. I only briefly gathered some dates and names years ago from my Mom and this is what I had to work on when I started a couple of years ago.
I live in Canada, am 67 and hoping to visit England next Spring, especially to the Swansea area.
I keep reading previous emails trying to piece everyone together. Again, thanks so much!
Cheers! Susan
Wow, so seeing as we share Jacob & Rosy as g grandparents, we are somehow related? This is exciting! Who would ever know!!
I only came to know of my Jewish decent a couple months ago, when I googled 'Levi Michael' and a picture of his tombstone appeared, it was then when I found out he was buried in the Swansea Jewish Cemetery! From there, I was able to find out his Father's name, David, and wife Rachel from the JewishGen.org website.
Also learned David had at least 3 other siblings; Abraham, Jacob and Rosa? (from a Jewish Wills website)
I was also able to get in contact with a writer/historian who had written an article on the Swansea Jewish Cemetery "Exploring Swansea's Graveyards" who sent me some pictures of the cemetery and confirmed both Levi and wife Rosy are buried in the Swansea Cemetery. But could he not find a stone for David.
Do you know where Jacob and Rosy are buried? ..........or Lemon Hart Michael?
Lemon Hart Michael was my gg grandfather, and I'm assuming he was named after the Lemon Hart family business??!! ... seeing as his Mother was Rosy Hart? ..... wow!
I feel so honored and privileged to be part of this family - SOooo interesting - I had no idea!
My Gramma's Father, Henry Lemon Michael, left when she was only 4, so nothing much of the Michael family got passed along. I only briefly gathered some dates and names years ago from my Mom and this is what I had to work on when I started a couple of years ago.
I live in Canada, am 67 and hoping to visit England next Spring, especially to the Swansea area.
I keep reading previous emails trying to piece everyone together. Again, thanks so much!
Cheers! Susan
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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: MICHAEL family Swansea - Jewish BDM records 1740-1880
« on: Tuesday 04 September 18 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Stephanie,
I was so excited to see I had received a reply to my post! I really wasn't expecting anything so soon - if anything at all ... thank you so much for taking the time.
Are you referring to Jacob Michael (1795-1882) and Rosetta (Rosy) Hart (1793-1863).. married in 1824? If so, my gx2 grandfather was Lemon Hart Michael, one of their sons.
There are quite a few 'Jacob's and 'Rosy's in the family, sometimes a bit confusing.
Thanks again for all the info you sent, I find it all so interesting and fascinating.
Susan
I was so excited to see I had received a reply to my post! I really wasn't expecting anything so soon - if anything at all ... thank you so much for taking the time.
Are you referring to Jacob Michael (1795-1882) and Rosetta (Rosy) Hart (1793-1863).. married in 1824? If so, my gx2 grandfather was Lemon Hart Michael, one of their sons.
There are quite a few 'Jacob's and 'Rosy's in the family, sometimes a bit confusing.
Thanks again for all the info you sent, I find it all so interesting and fascinating.
Susan
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