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US Lookup Requests / Babb/Myers/Nelson In Southern US
« on: Tuesday 05 October 21 17:10 BST (UK)  »
Alright, this all started with Temperance Babb (1820-1883) m. circa 1843 to Peter Henry Myers (1799-1871).
The Babbs, being both infamous and prolific, are a well fleshed out line.

On Peter Myers, there is an unknown first wife, and he has an unknown father. His mother is Isabelle Kincart (1786-1826). While there is a Kincart line, there's not any satisfying information on her. Peter has a possible sister, Margaret K. Myers.

In trying to fill out what I could find about the Myers family, I came across Elizabeth Myers (1832-deceased), a daughter of Peter Henry Myers and the unknown first wife. Elizabeth married William James Nelson (1834-before 1870) in 1855. Although he has a clear parental line, again, there's just not enough information.

I use familysearch, primarily because it's fully free. Ancestry is not something I can currently afford.
I have looked on the greater web for hints, but not had luck. I'd say I'm hitting a brick wall, but there isn't even enough substance for that! I'm hitting a cheesecloth partition.

Bonus points if you can find any proof (or disprove!) that another child of Temperance Babb and Peter Myers, a Martha Lucinda Myers (1856-1932) ever married one Nathanial Leander Grant (deceased). It's documented she married John Spidle/Speidle (who ALSO has little info) but there seems to be family belief of a second marriage.

This is a very spotty corner of my tree, friends! Please send help.

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:54 GMT (UK)  »
Reminds me of when I was a child.  My father would often say "when we lived at the castle" to which my mother always responded "you mean when they lived on their boat".  My mum was right - boatmen were part of his family - no evidence at all of hierarchy.   ;D ;D


Added:  Unfortunately both had passed away before I even started on Family History.

That's really cute! Maybe it was a really fancy boat  ;)

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:51 GMT (UK)  »
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"The oral history about him are all wrong"

In my experience, there is at least a grain of truth to the stories.

I would normally agree however in my great grandfathers case "The oral history about him are all wrong"  they lied about who he was, the person they named was his uncle and any 'story' was about that person......... so clearly it was all wrong... the interesting thing is when I found out his name and realised there was a grave in the village grave yard scribed with his name... only later to find out he is not even buried there but 3 miles away in the next village in an unmarked grave...... so all wrong even the grave !

 :o :o :o
That's a whole lot of wild! Did you ever find out why all this trouble? If you can't trust graves, what can you trust??

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:42 GMT (UK)  »
"The oral history about him are all wrong"

In my experience, there is at least a grain of truth to the stories.  For example, my father told me that my gg-grandfather did not serve in the Civil War because he had been badly crippled in a farming accident.  The truth is that gg-grandpa managed to squeak by to his 45th birthday without being drafted.  He was crippled in a farming accident but that was many years after the war.  Another example:  My grandmother said that her great uncle married a widow named Curtis who had a daughter named Stella.  I wrestled with this for ages before I finally figured out that she was a widow but Curtis was her maiden name and Stella was a niece who she adopted much, much later.

People trying to piece together what they've heard, I think. I've definitely had to deal with that, people being married to their own parents, being their own siblings, being their parent's siblings...

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:37 GMT (UK)  »
   "On the other hand, my gran used to tell people her brother died when he fell in the hold of a ship and broke his back."

   An uncle of my husband died in just this way as a young man, but the family apparently believed he was murdered.

Oh my gosh! The research I find always seems happy enough to stir up the dramatics. So and so was killed!! Was it because of his uncle's posse, or was the killing party led by a man after his wife?
Or old age and fevers. Either way.  :P

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Tuesday 09 February 21 16:28 GMT (UK)  »
My advice is look at the years they lived, research what records existed so civil, parish, census, tax, land, wills, newspapers and such things as trade directories, unions... (my great grandfather was a farmer so there are lots of farm records) and attempt to find each one. The oral hstory about him are all wrong, but it tells me lots about my family, that they want to hide information and in some of their case also are prepared to  lie to 'keep a secret' my nana told me his name( wrong name) , she had met/known him so knew him and lied about his name just to 'keep the family secret/shame'

Wow... it's too bad people feel they have to hide things. I feel for them that they have that worry or shame, and I feel for others who are missing out on the real stories because of it. Sounds like you found a lot all the same! Wills and unions, those are good ideas, thank you!

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Saturday 06 February 21 20:22 GMT (UK)  »

When I was young, my granddad told me a story, he had a sister who'd been living on the East Coast, outside of Norwich, during WW1. One evening, she'd been watching a zeppelin over the town and bombs being lobbed overboard. My reaction... Yes granddad, of course she did!
Quite a few years later, I inherited a lot of family ephemera, among the stuff was a little card with a photo of bomb damaged building, 1915 and an attached page with brief notes on it to my great grandparents from my great aunt Edith. Sure enough, she'd witnessed it.
I wish I'd asked her on the many visits to her house, and I wish I'd listened to more of granddads stories.
Griff
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Wow! You just never know. It's too bad to have missed some opportunities, but it's a lovely thing that you have items now, and the story that goes with them!

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Saturday 06 February 21 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
In some cases, you might find newspaper reports which support the family lore [not that everything printed in a newspaper is necessarily true, of course].

Ah, smart! Thank you for the suggestion!

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The Common Room / Re: Family Oral Histories
« on: Saturday 06 February 21 20:00 GMT (UK)  »
It has worked in the opposite direction for me. I've found something re. the family tree, mentioned it to an aunt or uncle, and they've replied, oh, yes, there was a family story about... or, I remember hearing the older folks talking and saying that surname, but I never knew why. And so on.

Regards,
Josephine

Oh I've definitely had that happen too! Or they say they can't remember, I present newspaper articles, a court ruling, what have you, and they shake their heads. "No, no... this can't be right... I'm sure it was a different uncle..." Ah well, makes for fun anecdotes for the descendants who will be looking us up someday ; )

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