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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 and 1861 and 1871 Glamorgan help needed
« on: Tuesday 11 February 20 23:26 GMT (UK)  »
There were two Bethuel Haycocks. The elder Bethuel (1766-1839) was my 4th great grandfather. He had, among other children, John, born in 1809, and my 3rd great grandfather, Bethuel. I'm guessing that the John born in 1809 was the father of your John, born in 1843. The younger Bethuel had a son John who was my 2nd great grandfather. He emigrated to the US ~1864. So our common ancestor would be the elder Bethuel.

Bill

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Glamorganshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 and 1861 and 1871 Glamorgan help needed
« on: Saturday 09 June 18 03:09 BST (UK)  »
Welsh Jen, the John listed in this record is my greatgreatgrandfather. His wife Elizabeth was Elizabeth Edmonds. Yes, I have wondered about her age with the oldest children but I cannot find a marriage record for my greatgreatgrandfather.

Glamorgan Family History Society 1861 Census CD
4080 1861 CENSUS OF HAFOD-Y-PORTH. R.G.9/4080, E.D.4.                                                                               
Piece: 4080      Folio: 093     Schedule: 176
Address: HIGH ST.TAIBACH       

HEYCOCK JOHN               HD M  32   COAL MINER               
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1829)
HEYCOCK ELIZABETH          WI M  22   -                         
                                      CMN LLANELLI                     (c1839)
HEYCOCK CATHERINE          DA -   8   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1853)
HEYCOCK MARY A.            DA -   5   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1856)
HEYCOCK JOHN               SO -    2M -                         
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1861)
REES THOMAS                BO M  60   LABOURER                 
                                      CGN LLANGYNLLO                   (c1801)
EVANS JOHN                 BO U  19   COAL MINER               
                                      GLA LLANGYNWYD                   (c1842)

The record below lists the family of my 3rd greatgrandfather, Bethuel.

2462 1851 CENSUS OF TAIBACH. REF.H.O.107/2462, E.D.1C.  Piece: 2462      Folio: 071     Schedule: 256
Address: TAIBACH               

HEYCOCK BETHUEL            HD M  52   COLLIER                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1799)
HEYCOCK ELIZABETH          WI M  54   WIFE                     
                                      GLA CADOXTON                     (c1797)
HEYCOCK JOHN                SO U  21   COLLIER                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1830)
HEYCOCK DAVID              SO U  18   COLLIER                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1833)
HEYCOCK REES               SO U  16   COLLIER                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1835)
HEYCOCK MARY               DA U  14   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1837)
HEYCOCK WILLIAM            SO U   7   SCHOLAR                   
                                      GLA MARGAM                       (c1844)

The marriage listing for Bethuel and Elizabeth Jones is for my 4th greatgrandparents.

I think you may be right in thinking that there may be a cousin relationship between the John in my direct line and the John pigginnut is researching. Looking at the listing you provided from the 1861 census that John had children Bethuel, Samuel and John. Bethuel is not a very common name. My 4th greatgrandfather Bethuel's grandfather was Samuel, and Samuel's father was John. First names and naming conventions are helpful when one can only speculate due to the absence of records. 

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