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Perthshire / Re: Where is Cragganfearne? Looking for info on the Laird - Fleming
« on: Saturday 05 May 18 18:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Don! - for clearing up the information on the land area - when I googled Tullymet the only thing that came up was a street! Yes the spelling made a difference! I had no idea that there was a meaning to the words Burn or 'Haugh of' either. I am sure that will come in handy with further researching.                                                 

I did find the marriage of Alexander Fleming and Margaret Forbes as you stated. Isobell's birth was listed under Scotland Births and Baptisms. Showing a Christening Date 01 Oct 1797 Christening Place   DOWALLY, PERTH, SCOTLAND Birth Date 20 Sep 1797 parents John Fleming and Janet Ross. Again - not being familiar with the area, I do not know how close / far everything is. We are planning a trip to the UK and Europe in the future - am hoping to stay a bit longer in the Perth area than I did previously - there about 10 yrs ago but only had a little information at that time and didn't realize that there was so much information. At the time we spent 2 days seeing the area of Perth and Blairgowrie/ Rattery area, river Tay etc. Loved to walks and found out that the family research society was there but they were closed. As we were there with my in laws, I also did not have the chance to actually spend time in research either.

I have not found the birth of Christopher Alexander Fleming yet either but still looking. Yes records are sometimes lost and family Bible records are not always accurate, however so far the copy I have of the Douglass Bible has been fairly accurate. The info of John Fleming being the supposed son of the Laird of Cragganfearne is NOT a part of the Bible, just was information in a letter to my Aunt from a distant cousin. As it was written in parenthesis by his name but his mothers husband was listed as Christopher Alexander Fleming - I wondered if that meant that possibly C A Fleming was the step father or that maybe he (John Fleming) was a son of the Laird and was 'born on the wrong side of the sheets' as they used to say. Either way, not a major deal to me, just following up on family information / stories.

Again and also - thank you for the information on further searching as well - very helpful to someone across the pond! Kind of kicking myself as had a subscription to UK census information awhile back but did not think to check Scotland at the time as was researching more of my husbands side of the family then - SAS


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Perthshire / Re: Where is Cragganfearne? Looking for info on the Laird - Fleming
« on: Saturday 05 May 18 05:13 BST (UK)  »
Stumbled onto this post when I searched for Craggenfearne as well. New to roots myself so not sure if any of the other people that posted will see this.
My lineage goes back to Christopher Alexander Fleeming / Fleming (spelling is mostly Fleming on line but copy of Family Bible is Fleeming). Apparently he was born in 1743, Athole, Perthshire, Scotland (family bible states Athole had to look up to see Perthshire, which fits with other family records info.) He was married to a Margret Forbes Fleeming in Blair Athole, Perth, Scotland on March 9, 1769.Their son - John Fleming born June 20, 1770 in Blair Athole, Perth - was said to be the son of Laird of Cragganfearn. This is were I find it confusing as wouldn't that be Christopher Alexander Fleeming, the man listed as his father? Anyway this son - John Fleming had 4 - possibly 5 children with a Janet Ross (married in 1790 in Mains of Kilmorich, Dowally, Perth) 2 sons and 2 - possibly 3 daughters. It was said that Janet Ross used to walk over the hills to see her mother but still trying to find info on her.) 1 of the daughters - Isobel (my lineage) was married to a James Douglass the Elder (April 23, 1826 Logierait, Perth). Now the title 'the Elder' usually meant an Elder of the Church, similar to a Deacon) but I cannot confirm that James was an Elder but that is how his name is in the family records. They lived in Blairgowrie and had 4 sons, 1 of which drowned in the river Tay and James the Elder died a few months after. The mother Isabella/ Isobell and sons immigrated to Canada where there was already family living that had immigrated earlier. Anyway in letters received from an Aunt either James Douglass the Elder or one of his sons was a tailor in Scotland.
In doing research I found that an Alternative name to Cragganfearne is: TULLYMET BURN Canmore ID 73765 County: PERTHSHIRE Parish: LOGIERAIT Council: PERTH AND KINROSS. I do not know if this is still the same piece of land in which was in question as before or not but it could possibly be a different area of land and therefore an smaller holding, not part of a large estate? Is Blair Athole, Perth anywhere near this Cragganfearn place? Is Tullymet Burn (which does not show up on google maps still in existance? I have my family tree on wikitree.com if anyone is interested.

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