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Fife / Re: Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Sunday 29 April 18 10:30 BST (UK)  »
Morning Annie :-) I was talking about the Catherine Glen in the link you sent me. I already had her death certificate and her husband was dead before her. I'm not convinced she's mine (but won't throw it out yet). My Catherine who was married to James McGregor died in 1862 and she is a widow on her death record. I haven't found James' death certificate yet - I have him in 1851 census but not 1861. The 1851 census has him born 1790 in Moray. There is a possible birth for him but I can't prove it yet.

I think what I'm going to do is go into Scotland's People next week and go through David Brown deaths again. Is there anything you want me to look up while I'm there?

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Fife / Re: Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Sunday 29 April 18 00:47 BST (UK)  »
There's a corresponding Ref. of death on SP for...

GLEN CATHERINE/BROWN CATHERINE 80
1871
422/ 14 Dalgetty (Fife)

This should give details of whether her hubby David was still alive or already deceased which may help find his death with his parents named?

Annie

For this Catherine - she was listed as a widow on her death certificate so he predeceased her. I have checked every Statutory David Brown in Fife and Glasgow and not found him (yet lol)

Thanks again for trying - I've been at this one for many years but it is good to have someone challenge my thinking.

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Fife / Re: Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 23:36 BST (UK)  »
TY. I had found those census returns and have kept them meanwhile but found no link.
Children of Alexander Brown and Janet Waddell
1. Magdalene b 8 February 1844 in Auchtertool (Maternal Grandmother was Magdalene)
2. Mary b 6 Dec 1845 in Auchtertool (after her paternal Grandmother?)
3.David Brown b 31 October 1849 in Arngash, Fife (paternal grandfather).
4. James Abercrombie Brown b 3 September 1853 in Auchterderran (Mary's grandfather was James Abercrombie)
5. Isabella Abercrombie Brown b 29 June 1855 in Auchterderran (after Mary's sister?)
6. Alexander Brown 1 June 1858 in Kinghorn (after his father)
7. Janet Brown b 1 September 1860 in Kinghorn (after her mother)
8. Thomas McGregor Brown b 16th August 1863 (one of Catherine's children was Thomas McGregor)

Children of Catherine Brown and James McGregor
1. James Cook McGregor b 21 May 1826 Gorbals Glasgow (Cook probably comes from a close friend of Isabella's, he is named in her will)
2. John McGregor b 5 October 1828 Gorbals
3. David McGregor b 26 June 1831 Gorbals (after his maternal Grandfather)
4. Alexander McGregor b 25 August 1833 Gorbals
5. Thomas McGregor b 24 Jan 1836 Gorbals
6. Robert McGregor b 19 August 1838 Gorbals
7. Mary Abercrombie McGregor b 21 Feb 1841 Gorbals (maternal grandmother)

TY again :-)

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Fife / Re: Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 19:21 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I have used Freecen and Family Search.

Mary/Margaret was baptised as Margaret but in her marriage is listed as Mary.I found Mary/Margaret's birth alongside that of her brother and sister. Parents of these are: Alexander Abercrombie and Catherine Moyes (Katherine Mois in their marriage record). The children are Margaret b 1771, Isabella b 1774 (died 1861) and James b 1780 all in Auchterderran.  I have her sister Isabella's will. It does not mention Mary/Margaret but lists her children ie Isabella's niece and nephews. I also have her daughter Catherine's will and this ties in beautifully with her aunt's will listing the monies (£200) received from Isabella and the amount and this allowed me to link them all. Isabella and James were both unmarried. They were tenants of Powmill Farm in Auchterderran. I have them both in the 1841 and 1851 census and Isabella in the 1861 census.

David Brown married Mary/Margaret on 18 August 1798 in Auchterderran. They have three children: Catherine born 1799 in Auchterderran and who married James McGregor in Gorbals, Glasgow on 10 June 1825. Catherine died 6 November 1862 in Tradeston, Glasgow. The second child was David Brown born 4 September 1801 in Auchterderran - I have no other information on him apart from that he is mentioned in his Aunt Isabella's will but only receives £10 and only if he turns up to collect it! He does not seem to be a favourite. The third child is Alexander Brown born 18 February 1804 in Auchterderran. He married 1. Christian Penman on 25 October 1828 (no children found) and then married 2. Janet Waddell on 18 March 1843 in Auchtertool. They had 8 children. Alexander received £500 in his aunt's will and was an executor.

Mary/Margaret is not mentioned in her sister's will (1861) and neither is David Brown her husband. I suspect they were both dead by then. I have a will for a David Brown dated 1804. This will states that David is a tenant in Wester Colquhally and has a son David Brown who is a Writer in Edinburgh but it is only 1 page long and discusses a debt of £10 due to a man called Henry Kilgour. I checked with Scotland's people that there wasn't pages missing but it was complete. I have been unable to make a link to my David Brown and the one in the will.

I had hoped to find a death certificate for David Brown, nephew of Isabella as he does appear at a meeting to discuss the will after the aunt's funeral so I know he was alive in 1861. I sat in Scotland's People centre for several days checking deaths for David Brown but as yet I have not found him.

In Catherine's death certificate her father is a ploughman but in Alexander's he is listed as a shoemaker. I found the census for David Brown with the younger woman but can't prove anything.

It is the David Brown's brick wall I want to demolish!

TY for listening :-)

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Fife / Re: Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 17:32 BST (UK)  »
I only have what I have listed for the two David Browns ie a marriage for the elder one and a birth for the younger one - no census records, death records, wills, burials, or other birth or marriages :-(
I have checked Scotland's People, Ancestry, but as you can imagine there are thousands of David Browns :-(

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Fife / Brown/Abercrombie
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 16:39 BST (UK)  »
I am researching David Brown who was married to Mary/Margaret Abercrombie on 18 August 1798 in Auchterderran, Fife. I have found information on the Abercrombies but nothing on David Brown. They had three children: Catherine b 1799, David b 1801 and Alexander b 1804 - all in Auchterderran. I have information on Catherine and Alexander but nothing on son David either. Ah the elusive David Browns! Grrr Any help most welcome, thank you.

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Fife / Re: Headstone Inscriptions LOCHGELLY CEMETERY
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi - I am looking for the gravestone for Alexander Brown who died 9 March 1884 in Lochgelly. I am also looking for a David Brown but have no death date for him. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you

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Fife / Re: Auchterderran & Kinglassie M.I's pre-1855
« on: Saturday 28 April 18 16:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Elaine


Many Many thanks for the info on Auchterderran M.I.'s.  Alexander Abercrombie and Catherine Moyes were my g.g.g.g.g grandparents.  I am sure that some of the Wemyss mentioned must also by relatives (I will keep digging).  I would be grateful for the sketch of the locations of the graves - I have taken photo's of the churchyard so it would be good to see if I can place them.  I am new to "Roots Chat" so don't know the formula needed to receive scans - help needed.  Will now need to find out if someone out there  has M.I's post 1855 as I know that other family members are buried there.



Regards


Helen

Helen - I have just found this thread and this family is my husband's family. Alexander and Catherine are his GGG Grandparents on his Mum's side - she is descended from David Brown married to Mary/Margaret Abercrombie. I'd love to get in touch with you - I'm in Scotland.

Regards
Anne

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