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Armed Forces / Re: Designations within the 14th Field Brigade, RA
« on: Friday 06 June 25 08:10 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Mark, I'd seen conflicting reports of when the 14th arrived in India, so it's nice to know that it was definitely already there when our man arrived.

And thanks for that, Andy. That makes sense - our man remained with the 38th Field Battery throughout his time in India. But this moved from the 14th to the 61st Field Brigade in March,1929.

I found it hard to locate anything online about Brigades and Batteries in the inter-war years. I couldn't find anything at all on the 61st.

Thanks again.

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Armed Forces / Designations within the 14th Field Brigade, RA
« on: Thursday 05 June 25 20:43 BST (UK)  »
I have a soldier who served with the 14th Field Brigade, RA in India between 1926 and 1930.
However some of the Brigade's Battery designations have got me stumped.

I believe (?) that the 14th Bde comprised the 39th, 68th, 88th Batteries at this time.

He was posted to the 14th in Feb 1926 but presumably first had to take passage out to India. After his arrival (?) in March,1926 he was posted to the 38/14th Field Battery. Does this signify the 38th Battery in the 14th Brigade ? Or a combined 38th & 14th Batteries ? And when did these become part of the 14th Bde ?

In March,1929, he was transferred to the 38/61st Field Battery. Again, is this a combined 38th and 61st Battery ? But still in the 14th Bde ?

I'd be grateful if a more knowledgable head could put me on the right path.

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The Common Room / Re: Where was this Will proven ?
« on: Thursday 29 May 25 08:08 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Alexander.

I hadn't picked-up on the FS reference.
And, as we all know, they can be annoyingly vague about where information came from.

The Northumberland diocese (including Newcastle-on-Tyne) wasn't separated from Durham until 1882, so long after the introduction of civil probate in 1858.

This all sounds a bit mysterious, but at least I have a lead to follow now.

And thanks for the book link, Mark - that's a real puzzle.
The book was published in 1827 and includes Miles' burial (he was, indeed, a Master Mariner).
However, he was buried at Ballast Hills Cemetery on 1 Mar 1829 !

"Curiouser and curiouser"

Thank you all for responding.

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The Common Room / Re: Where was this Will proven ?
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 17:53 BST (UK)  »
It's a thought, Lizzie.

But the Will is definitely for the Miles who died in 1829 - he was born c.1741 which fits with everything we know about him.

The Will obviously exists as it is transcribed in full on the One-Name site.
But I can't find it.

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The Common Room / Where was this Will proven ?
« on: Wednesday 28 May 25 14:47 BST (UK)  »
On the Ismay one-name study website, a Will is described for a Miles ISMAY in 1810:
https://ismay.one-name-mwp1.net/groups/web/group203/pafc02.htm#56C2

Miles didn't actually die until 1829, so presumably 1810 is when the Will was written.

There was no Probate for Newcastle-upon-Tyne (unless someone knows better than me), it was part of the Diocese of Durham. However, I've checked Durham, York and Canterbury. And there's no Will.

Does anyone have an idea where this Will might have been proven ?
It's driving me nuts.

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World War One / Re: Service Number in Royal Irish Rifles
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 12:57 BST (UK)  »
This RN Service Record only covers his initial period of service, Andy.
1921-25.

I've applied for his record from 1936.
Which, of course, is tied down under DP.

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World War One / Re: Service Number in Royal Irish Rifles
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 11:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Shaun

I've already ordered his WW2 RN Service Record from TNA/MoD.
But not holding my breath. ;-)

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World War One / Re: Service Number in Royal Irish Rifles
« on: Saturday 24 May 25 09:17 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Andy, good to have some reassurance. ;-)

Tim was demobbed in March,1919, but re-enlisted in the RIR the same month as Rifleman 7006622.
He served another 2 years, now with the 2nd Battalion.
I presume that's how the reference to 2nd Bn made its way to his entry on the BWM & VM Roll.

Then, just to make things even more interesting, he enlisted in the Royal Navy in September,1921 and served for another 5-years ! He was discharged to the Reserve in September,1926, but re-enlisted in June,1936 and went on to serve during WW2.

Talk about an interesting life.

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World War One / Service Number in Royal Irish Rifles
« on: Friday 23 May 25 17:39 BST (UK)  »
I have a soldier, Timothy KELLY, who served during WW1 with the Royal Irish Rifles as a Rifleman.
His entry on the BWM & VM Roll (see attached) shows that he served with the 2nd and 16th Bn.
I have his discharge papers which show that he originally enlisted in the Northumberland Fusiliers in July,1915.
And a hand-written note in his Pay Book stating that he first served on the Western Front in June,1916.
He was taken prisoner-of-war on 21 March,1918 while with the 16th (Pioneer) RIR.

So far so good.

My problem is with his RIR Service Number - 3/10797.
'3/' would indicate that the number was issued with the 3rd (Reserve) Bn.
And comparable Service Numbers were issued in 1917, which does not align with him first having served overseas in June,1916.
Or am I wrong ?

There are other anomalies.
His discharge papers state that he was aged 16 when he enlisted in 1915 (which is correct). So he wouldn't actually have been eligible to go overseas until he turned 18 in December,1916.
Another note in his Pay Book states that he enlisted in 1914, aged 15. Which is clearly not correct. So was he just wrong in stating that he first went to France in June,1916 ?

I think that's what I'm starting to suspect.
But I could do with another pair of eyes before I write off his notes as 'economical with the truth'.

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