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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: JOHN NIGHTINGALE 1841 TENDRING
« on: Wednesday 17 April 19 23:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi, not an answer to your question as the info i am about to share goes up in time (after 1885), but perhaps the files deliver some new addresses/locations, i've read the address you mentioned but if i'm remembering correct there were others too. 

In Antwerp exist old alienfiles of a few Oxley's from Harwich:

File N° 481#43099
OXLEY Thomas °21 feb 1858 Harwich
Clerk

His parents:
Robert °in 1822 Whitby
Esther Storry NIGHTINGALE °in 1822 Whitby

Previous address abroad: Harwich, West Street N°21

Arrivaldate in Antwerp,Belgium 3 Jan 1880. He carried as proof of his ID a birthcertificate, delivered in Harwich 6 march 1880.
Filedate 24 mar 1880
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His wife:
Sarah-Anne LAWRENCE
°15 apr 1858 London
Housewife

Her parents:
Francis Adolph  °in 1822 London
Mary-Anne LEWIS °Harwich (died before arrival/filedate (Feb 1883))

Previous address abroad: Harwich, Macdonough Terace, Maritime House

Arrivaldate in Antwerp,Belgium 2 Nov 1882. She carried as proof of her ID a marriagerecord, delivered in Harwich.
Filedate 27 Feb 1883

Sadly no more info than this.
But there are others mentioned in the database, like a child from above mentioned people:

File: 481#119637: Oxley Thomas Victor 27/04/1885 Harwich (parents Thomas& Sarah Lawrence -both stayed in Gent,Belgium)

and a few more:
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481#56758 Oxley Robert 22/12/1851/2? (St.Nicholas?) Harwich (died before march 1907)
"     married Merry SEDGER °22 may 1848 (St.George?) London,
      Children;
"                     Oxley Mable Lillian °1884 "
"                     Oxley Alice Maude °1878 "
"                     Oxley Ethel Gertrude °1876 "
"                     Oxley Elisabeth Esther °1874 "
"                     Oxley Thomas-Sedger °1882 Harwich***
(married 31jul1912 Ely-Cambridge to Rosa HUCKLE (her parents John & Caroline SIMSSKENS, 2children; Violet Mable °1917 & Sedger Huckle °1914)
"                     Oxley Robert-William-Nightingale °24/06/'80 "
(married 18aug1903 in Antwerp with Alice Leontine ANDREIKOVITZ-they prob. moved to Rotterdam in aug.1914-maybe to 1919 (WWI) or 1934(?), not sure.
They def. came back because there is a police record in year1934 where he stated he payed for a new passport but didn't received a paymentticket as proof because he had still a backlog of taxes)
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481#145857*** Oxley Thomas Sedger 10/06/1882 Harwich
"                         "        Sedger Huckle 20/02/1914 Antwerp            
"                         "        Violet Mable 28/07/1917 Ely-Cambridge
***see above
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481#61703 Oxley Esther Marie °in may 1850 Harwich
(married 25 Dec.1879 in Harwich with BROWN Carrington °Oct.1854 (his father was: Carrington °Dovercourt), 2children; Brown Marie-Gertrude °1882 & William Nightingale °1886)
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968#30416 Oxley Hugh Kenneth Howard 31/08/1917 *Not online view-able

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Sources:
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Direct link to 1st mentioned people/file 481#43099: https://felixarchief.antwerpen.be/detailpagina?invnr=481_43099&dtnr=100_2962&dtrecordid=154343&page=1&pageSize=10&type=copy&view=thumb

Links to databases of the cityarchive of Antwerp:

📌 Source 1
cityarchive FELIXARCHIVE in Antwerp:
https://felixarchief.antwerpen.be/detailtoegang/100/2962?page=1&pageSize=10&filters=W3sic2VhcmNoVHlwZVRleHQiOiJjb250YWlucyIsInNlYXJjaFR5cGVEYXRlIjoibWF0Y2giLCJmaWVsZElkIjoiMCJ9XQ%3D%3D

>look at 3 columns:
1st select in the first column: 'FAMILIENAAM' (Surname)
2nd 'BEVAT' (contains) and
3rd type a piece of a surname + Enter

*Example: 'DOMBR' instead of Dombrowski so you get variants: Dombrawsky, Dombrovsky, Dombrovskys, Dombrowski, Dombrowsky, Dombrowicz (!)
**Also 'Y' or 'IJ' gives gives a difference, try out both (!) Ex.: Zwijsen/Zwysen

***If a file is Not public via the above link, it's an option to try out familysearch, it is possible the file is publicly published there (files up to number nr. 214920-214980, 1925-1930 are published on Familysearch)
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📌 Source 2 via familysearch:
(look at the filenumbers first, some are the same as in the above database via Felixarchive(!))

► Step 1 INDEX; only remember the filenumber
TIP: search firstnames with a wildcard '*' = A* H* for Anthony Henry so you get variants like Antoon Henri, Antonius Henricus etc.
www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1477769?collectionNameFilter=false

► Step 2 FILENUMBERS;
look for the link where your needed filenumber in fits and browse through the microfilm *notice that filenumbers are written in the top-left-corner so you can follow where you are on the microfilm between files. www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.org/recapi/sord/collection/2023926/waypoints

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Guide and more info about the archive in Antwerp, look at the geni project (in Dutch and English - select language button below the title/ left from the project photo)
www.geni.com/projects/Belgium-Antwerp-Police-Immigration-files/43538

I strongly advise to try out other familynames in the database, who knows...

Good luck
🍀

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Hi Derek,
Not the person you are searching for, but about the same family so a little more info. in Antwerp exist one old alienfile (date 14or16-07-1874) from a son Nathaniel, from this parents Nathaniel Griffin & Louise Smith. So the son was once in Antwerp with his family. File info:

Nathaniel (occup.:Clerk)
b. 7 oct. 1828, Birmingham.
m. in Aston on 29 jul. 1854 with,
Ryland Margaret Crawford
b. 9 nov. 1832, Birmingham

2 children:
Emilie Blanche b. 9 nov. 1858 Aston
Howard b. 22 sep. 1861 Aston

Last official address abroad: Handsworth,Brimingham Queensheadlane, Brougham House

Parents from Nathaniel:
Nathaniel, age 78, b. Coaley (filedate1874 =+- b.1796)
Louise Smith, age 76, b. Coaley (filedate1874 =+- b.1798)

They arrived in Belgium, Antwerp: 9 nov. 1873.
No more info than this.

There are also files on names:
Griffin   Allen Josiah  b. +-1843 Lyme
Griffin   Harriet Louise  age 4.5 in 1882 b. London

Griffin   Anne  b. 15/10/1814 Bristol
Griffin   Bridget  b. 16/01/1894 Tubbert

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Source to database in Antwerp
(cityarchive of Antwerp 'Felixarchief'):

📌 Source 1
cityarchive FELIXARCHIVE in Antwerp:
http://zoeken.felixarchief.be/zHome/Home.aspx?f=100&inv=2962

(look at the long blue bar)
1st select in the first column: 'FAMILIENAAM' (Surname)
2nd 'BEVAT' (contains) and
3rd type a piece of a surname + Enter

*Example 'HLIN' instead of McLaughlin so you get variants
**Also 'Y' or 'IJ' gives gives a difference, try out both (!) Example: Zwijsen / Zwysen

***If a file is Not public via the above link, it's an option to try out familysearch, it is possible the file is publicly published there (files up to number nr. 214920-214980, 1925-1930 are published on Familysearch)
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📌 Source 2 via familysearch:
(look at the filenumbers fist, some are the same as in the above database via Felixarchive(!))

► Step 1 INDEX; only remember the filenumber
www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1477769?collectionNameFilter=false

► Step 2 FILENUMBERS;
look for the link where your needed filenumber in fits and browse through the microfilm
*notice that filenumbers are written in the top-left-corner so you can follow where you are on the microfilm between files. www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.org/recapi/sord/collection/2023926/waypoints

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Guide and more info about the archive in Antwerp, look at the geni project (in Dutch and English - select language button below the title/ left from the project photo)
www.geni.com/projects/Belgium-Antwerp-Police-Immigration-files/43538

I advise to try out other familynames in the database, files after 1918 contain photos, never know...

Good luck
🍀
With kind regards,
Veronique
Belgian


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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Re: St Jude, South Shields - Marriage 1894
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 21:04 BST (UK)  »
part II - source links
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📌 Source 1
cityarchive FELIXARCHIVE in Antwerp:
http://zoeken.felixarchief.be/zHome/Home.aspx?f=100&inv=2962

(look at the long blue bar)
1st select in the first column: 'FAMILIENAAM' (Surname)
2nd 'BEVAT' (contains) and
3rd type a piece of a surname + Enter

*Example 'HLIN' instead of McLaughlin so you get variants
**Also 'Y' or 'IJ' gives gives a difference, try out both (!) Example: Zwijsen / Zwysen

***If you have no result in this database or a file is Not public via the above link, it's an option to try out familysearch, it is possible the file is publicly published there (files up to number nr. 214920-214980, 1925-1930 are published on Familysearch)
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📌 Source 2 via familysearch:
(look at the filenumbers fist, some are the same as in the above database via Felixarchive(!))

► Step 1 INDEX; only remember the filenumber BUT doble-check filenumbers (some files are the same ) www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1477769?collectionNameFilter=false

► Step 2 FILENUMBERS;
look for the link where your needed filenumber in fits and browse through the microfilm *notice that filenumbers are written in the top-left-corner so you can follow where you are on the microfilm between files. www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.org/recapi/sord/collection/2023926/waypoints

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Guide and more info about the archive in Antwerp, look at the geni project (in Dutch and English - select language button below the title/ left from the project photo)
www.geni.com/projects/Belgium-Antwerp-Police-Immigration-files/43538

🍀

With kind regards,
Veronique

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Durham Completed Look up Requests / Re: St Jude, South Shields - Marriage 1894
« on: Sunday 22 July 18 20:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi Boo, I've found a small alien- file in the database of Antwerp, Belgium with info about the John Hedley you are researching, i believe. If you haven't already found this info, otherwise you may ignore my post.

One John Hedley Flowerday °28/07/1875 Durham, England was registered as a "schoolboy" literally translated, or student (écolier in french).
Filedate: 25 september/ 11 Oct. 1887

Parents: Hedley Flowerday, age 45, the place of birth was ignored, address Leindenstone place N°36, London +
Kate Hilda, age 40, place of birth also ignored, address: stays in London (def. not on the same address as Hedley otherwise they would state that).

In this files they ask about Livelihood. My French sucks, but from what i can translate, it states:
the spouses Phillip-Uytenbogaart Robert-Émile who were the subject of a bulletin/ newspaper? of the day, who adopted and provide for his subsistence.

John H.'s last domiciliary was: Amsterdam, Haarlemmer Houttuinen N°17; Netherlands

Address in Antwerp: (in French: Longue rue de l'Equerre N°56, section 2), looked up in Dutch (called in Antwerp today): Lange Winkelhaakstraat N°56.

He arrived 15 Sept. 1887 in Belgium, the same date for Antwerp so he was never in Belgium before.
Legal document delivered: change of residence, delivered in Amsterdam dated 20 Sept. 1887 (he lived there with his parents was scrapped).

The file was dated on 11 Oct.1887, but i think they signed up at the police immigration on 25 Sept. 1887.

Since it was scrapped that he lived with his parents in the Netherlands, i looked into the database from the cityarchive if possible the adoptive parents were NOT Belgian too, if so there must exist an alienfile on their names too. And yess, they were not Belgian and registered too!

Saw only 3 files on surname Uytenbogaa/ert, 2 males and one woman: Anna Catharina (in French Anne Catherine). A look at surname Philipp delivered one with the same firstnames Robert Emile. The Anna Catharina mentioned above has also the same filenumber 481#63103! So this couple must be the adoptive parents.

info from file 63103:
as i'm reading further and typing at the same time all details fall in place:
apparently all 3 arrived, registered on the same dates in Belgium, lived on the same addresses and they carried the same document from change of residence, delivered in Amsterdam dated 20 Sept. 1887, that proves that they all lived together in the Netherlands and this are indeed and def. the right adoptive parents!  ;D
A separate file must have been made because it was known that John Hedley was adopted and had different parents or because his name wasn't legally changed (yet?).
The info in notes in John Hedleys file were probably scrapped because it said 'parents' and not 'adoptive parents'.

Philipp, Robert Emile b. 12/10/1834 Brehna, cercle de Bitterfeld,Prussia +
Uytenboogaert, Anne Catherine b. 19/09/1832 Weesp, Netherlands
So his adoptive- father was German, his -mother Dutch.

The parents from Robert Emile were: Charles Louis Emile, born St-Ulrich, Prussia, died before filedate (25 Sept/11 Oct 1887)+ Emilia, Hennig, born in Holzweissig,also died before the filedate (25 Sept/11 Oct 1887).

Robert Emile was a Pianist and he lived from his incomes. Same previous address: Haarlemmer houttuinnen N°17, Netherlands
Address in Antwerp: (in French: Longue rue de l'Equerre N°56, section 2), in Dutch (called today): Lange Winkelhaakstraat N°56.

No more info than this in both files.
I got above info out of files from source 1 (free downloadable and with no registration)
See my new post for source links because this otherwise exceeds the maximum allowed characters.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: McGregors MaryLeBone, Middlesex
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 21:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dawn, thank you for your reply.

I saw that, but i still thought to post this info here public, just in case others are researching this family too.  :)

I researched 'grianaig' via his other posts, and looked for his needed persons via Google. I think i found him on Geni and Wikitree (last active in 2015), so i've send him the same message there too. Hopefully he will read this somewhere.  ;D

Regards,
Veronique

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: McGregors MaryLeBone, Middlesex
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I've found an older alienfile in Antwerp from one Jeanne Gregor (Mac/McGregor): Jeanne=French for Joanne or Jane (she was called Jeanne 'May') °b.  April 10, 1858 (St.Clement) London, she was a dancer in the Royal theater of Antwerp.

She married Samuel DUTTON °Jan. 10, 1856 Burntisland, a trader.
his parents: Samuel °Harrich, living in Ipswich, age 72 in 1881 and Annie Storey or Horey? °b. Rothburg, also living in Ipswich, age 67 in 1881.
Legal address abroad from Samuel °1856: Ipswich, Norwich Road 125. He arrived Jan.3 1881 in Antwerp,Belgium.

Parents from Jeanne (May) Mc/Mac Gregor: Duncan McGregor °b.Glasgow, died before filedate and Elizabeth Biegs (Biggs) °b. London, age 66 in 1887& 64 in 1885.
Legal address abroad from Jeanne: London Fanbourg de Dorsetroad, Clapham, Corbittstreet N°2.
She arrived in May 1884 in Brussels,Belgium (address there: Bruxelles, Rue du pont neuf N°23), and in Antwerp one time on Sept.5 in 1884, 2nd time Sept. 19 1887 and 3rd time Nov. 15 1888.

The first 2times she had no papers with her, but on the last document (in 1888) she had her birth record delivered in London Aug. 20 1888, birthdate: April 10 1858  St.Clement, London (instead of '56 on the first 2docs). On this document her father was born in London, her mother correctly 'Biggs' age 72.

No more info than this.

Source file - source 1: cityarchive of Antwerp.
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📌📌📌 Source 1
cityarchive FELIXARCHIVE in Antwerp:
http://zoeken.felixarchief.be/zHome/Home.aspx?f=100&inv=2962

(look at the long blue bar)
1st select in the first column: 'FAMILIENAAM' (Surname)
2nd 'BEVAT' (contains) and
3rd type a piece of a surname + Enter
*Example 'HLIN' instead of McLaughlin so you get variants.

**If a file is Not public via the above link, it's an option to try out familysearch, it is possible the file is publicly published there. (files up to number nr. 214920-214980, 1925-1930 are published on Familysearch)

📌📌📌 Source 2 via familysearch:
(look at the filenumbers frist, some are the same as on Felixarchive(!))

📌 Step 1 INDEX;
www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1477769?collectionNameFilter=false (only remember the filenumber)

📌 Step 2 FILENUMBERS;
look for the link where your needed filenumber in fits and browse through the microfilm *notice that filenumbers are written in the top-left-corner so you can follow where you are on the microfilm between files. www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://familysearch.org/recapi/sord/collection/2023926/waypoints

-----

Guide and more info about the archive in Antwerp, look at the geni project (in Dutch and English - select language button below the title/ left from the project photo)
www.geni.com/projects/Belgium-Antwerp-Police-Immigration-files/43538

I advise to try out other familynames in the database, who knows...

Good luck
🍀
With kind regards,
Veronique


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