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Hello Patrish,

Yes, I suppose it's perfectly possible that they were not legally married.   The 1841 reference I gave  (HO107, 992, 3/5 2) points to the Burton family living in Wharf Street, Shelton.  The original I looked at is exceedingly feint, hence, i think, the reason for a certain confusion over the surname.

What I could do about finding the marriage if there is one, I am not sure....

Florence Kate. 

hello patrish,

Yes, I do see your point but I'm a bit stuck on finding her marriage to William Newton because it is likely to be before 1837 and I don't know WHERE I'm looking.  Do you have any ideas?

Florence Kate

As  recently reported in the Northants Look Up requests, I think I have found the NEWTON family I was looking for in the 1841 census  .....  under the name BURTON!

Note the similarities between this and the family I am looking for:
Burton    William        30      1811   Boatman
Burton      Ellen           25    1816                         in county (Staffordshire)
Burton    Elizabeth      6      1835
Burton     Lucy       1 mnth   1841                         in county (Staffordshire)

HO107   992   3/5   2     living at Wharf Street, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent.

Janan thinks this might be it! 

Florence  Kate
                     

I have just added elsewhere, after all this time, and will do so here too, that I am wondering whether an entry in the 1841 census under BURTON should in fact read Newton.  The original is so faint you just cannot be sure.

Burton  William   30         Boats....... 
Burton Ellen       25          .....................    Staffordshire
Burton Elizabeth   6       
Burton Lucy     1 month                            Staffordshire

the address is Wharf Street, Stoke upon Trent, Shelton.

If this is the family I was looking for, it takes away the queries about was this the second marriage for Ellen etc, and makes things look far more straightforward.   The fact that William and Elizabeth were not born in Staffs fits in too, since I know they were both born in Northants.

Florence Kate

Thank you Valda for a lot of useful information, some of which I had also received from Louisa Maud via Personal Messages.  The new details I hadn't seen before concern Henry John Rogerson, and those are also most interesting, and are obviously connected since George and Mary Ann were witnesses. 

Yes I did begin to realise after the first few messages that Richard George was likely to be the person I was looking for, because HIS children were the ones I was expecting George to have!!

I said I would obtain a copy of the birth certificate of one the George/'Mary Ann children.   I feel fairly sure now that the pieces of this particular puzzle will fit together as CaroleW, Louisa Maud and you have shown.  The GRO is only interested in online applicaitions now.  Do postal applications still work?  Do I go via the GRO or must it be via the local register office, in which case WHICH one?

Rootschat has been most helpful to me.  Thank you all.

Florence Kate.