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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Armitage Brick Wall Cumberworth Half
« on: Monday 12 November 18 00:56 GMT (UK)  »

Bastardy. It must have been so tough to be a woman in those times :-\

And this is all before the advent of pneumatic tyres! I wonder how they got to take out their ire? If at all.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Armitage Brick Wall Cumberworth Half
« on: Saturday 10 November 18 05:09 GMT (UK)  »

Thank you @CaroleW:) I would say Ann Carter is the right wife too.

Thanks also ColC. I am now pursuing the idea that his mother may have been a lady by the name of Elizabeth Nottingham based upon the family tree of a lady who has just matched me Via DNA. I am going to check out your 8th of Sept, 1811 hint though, because that also sounds like a really promising lead.


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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Armitage Brick Wall Cumberworth Half
« on: Tuesday 06 November 18 10:20 GMT (UK)  »

Hi Everyone,

I have hit a brick wall and I'm hoping someone can help.

I am researching Joseph Armitage born 1812 in Cumberworth Half, he is listed as being a "fancy woolen weaver". The information, (apart from the names of children he fathered), appears to stop there though. Despite exhaustive online searches I cannot find his parents.

Joseph was married to Ann (possibly Ann Carter).

Joseph's birth date and birth location are listed on numerous census documents and so I know those details are at least accurate. There is a man named John Armitage listed on his marriage banns document, but I'm not sure whether this is his father or his brother.

Two mothers have come up as a result of Ancestry searches, Martha Rowley and Sarah Firth. I have, by means of deduction, ruled both of these ladies out. Sarah's son was born in 1826 and Martha's son married someone else entirely.

Can anybody help? Or hope upon hope, does anyone already have this man listed in their tree?

Thanks,

P


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Paternal Tree and DNA does not match.
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 04:12 BST (UK)  »

@Rosinish

Unfortunately, there are no other siblings. I think the reason the whole process so far has gone so slow is because I don't want to upset anyone by making rash allegations that might cause them undue distress and so I've been as careful as I can be.

As I am not young, the parties involved (parents) are deceased which helps I suppose in that there isn't anyone around to take unbridled anger out on, lest it take that turn. My cousins also are ten to fifteen years older than me and really pragmatic, even tempered men and so I know when it comes down to having that awkward conversation that they will most likely be adults about it:)

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Paternal Tree and DNA does not match.
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 03:01 BST (UK)  »

I probably should mention the next steps involve results of sister's test and then after that I'm going to approach one of my cousins (Uncle's son) and ask them to test too.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Paternal Tree and DNA does not match.
« on: Thursday 13 September 18 02:41 BST (UK)  »

@medpat I appreciate your good heart and I understand the need to play devil's advocate because this is the kind of situation that is life altering. However in my case it is as @hurworth said.

I have taken not one but DNA tests in the last two years. The first test (23andme) led me to the assumption that something was wrong on the paternal and the second test (Ancestry) pretty much convinced me that my first assumption was right.

In the last two years I have spent hundreds of hours building up both my Dad's tree and the mirror tree and making both as accurate as possible.

The mirror tree (Uncle's tree) so far has connected me directly to at least six, previously unexplained 3-4th cousin matches and has inspired another five shared ancestor hints via the Ancestry system. The trees of the people in those SAH cases have fully matched my uncle's tree.

I probably should also point out that nearly all of the 3-4th cousin matches are linked to lines related to my Uncle's mother on the X, so for me there was just no getting over it, I'm looking at an NPE but as previously mentioned by another poster, I'm not unique in this.


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Paternal Tree and DNA does not match.
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 11:10 BST (UK)  »

@sugarfizzle Sister's results are not back yet.

Regarding original Dad's tree. I had that up for over six months on Ancestry waiting for any match at all. When I've had a bad day I've hitched my DNA back up to his tree to see if anything goes and just have had nothing happen. I'm not close to him, so it wasn't a huge emotional thing. Mainly just an out of the blue shock for me.

The things you learn! This will definitely be a story for the grand kids.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Paternal Tree and DNA does not match.
« on: Wednesday 12 September 18 02:03 BST (UK)  »

Update on my situation. I have completed an extensive mirror tree on Ancestry and have received multiple shared ancestor hints on not one but four of my Uncle's family lines.

This information has been greeted by my siblings with a good deal of scorn and skepticism, (as you might well imagine). They believe that I have somehow forced the shared ancestor hints to appear by placing my uncle's name where I did.

I have no further way to prove my suspicions, so I am in currently in the position where I will possibly have to throw my hands up and move on, and/or wait for more people to test in the future.

Thanks everyone for all of your insights and help.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Sarah Ann Thewlis
« on: Monday 23 July 18 03:12 BST (UK)  »
The birth year for Sarah Senior is very misleading when she married in 1826 she wouldn't have been born in 1816.
Regards Carolanne

I think I must be suffering from some kind of genealogy overload. I saw your post and thought:
"How'd the heck did I miss that???"

Thank you for the heads up on the date, I now have the correct dates for her and boy has it made a difference!!

As previously suggested there were two women having children at the same time, I now know that Sarah Ann is not the woman I'm looking for and that the person I'm researching is just a straight Sarah:)

Thanks again, everyone.

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