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Thanks for all the help. Really I'd like to know who was the Thomas Bartley that married Margaret Plumb in 1834and where and when did he die. Did he die in Preston in 1835? The child of that marriage was Thomas Bartley Plumb, who is a direct ancestor of mine. Going up to the next generation is problematic. Thomas the father must have died shortly after his wedding, as in 1837 Margaret got remarried to Thomas Kent. One possible link could be the Francis Barkley/Bartley who married Mary Whiting and had Thomas Bartley in 1810. Another could be Samuel Bartley, married to Margaret Rigby who had a Thomas Bartley born in 1807.

Brilliant! Now would this Francis Barkley with a 'k' be the the father of Thomas Bartley with a 't' who married Margaret Plumb on 9th March 1834? Thanks for the help.

Hello Alirat,
I too am trying to nail down Captain Plumb/Bartley as well as his father, also a Thomas, and his grandfather, perhaps called Francis. Was 'Captain' in fact a sobriquet for 'first mate'? Have you seen his portrait on Ancestry? Thomas's son, Thomas Edwin, who was born in 1861, himself became a sailor at the age of 14. At the Merseyside Maritime Museum there is a document dated 1880 referring to TE's transfer to the ship 'The Empire' which states that his father had been washed overboard and gives the father's occupation as that of 'sailor' rather than 'captain'. Have you found anything else about him and what are your family's stories regarding him. All the best, Roy

No birth certificate, marriage certificate or death certificate, just the fact that he had a son and lived at Cook St. with his wife and was a coachman. I have a hunch that Francis was perhaps born in Ulster, but can find no trace of him there either.

Hello out there. I've been able to trace back my Bartley family line to 1810 and the birth of Thomas Bartley, whose father's first name was Francis. I've been unable to go back any further and was wondering if anyone else shared the same ancestor/s.