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Quote from: horselydown86 on Saturday 15 November 25 03:51 GMT (UK)

Christopher Humfrey and Susanna his wife are co-administrators with John Watson (stated in 4).

I think that I have this statement slightly wrong, so a correction is required.

I think the Latin word used is: coadministratrici

Thank you very much for going back in and confirming, that is great.

This is singular, which means that Susanna is a co-administrator with John Watson but her husband Christopher Humfrey, while still a party to the matter, is not a co-administrator with John.

I hope I have it right this time.  Unfortunately, it's not the clearest document on AALT.

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me please?

I have tried looking for words that may give an idea to the relationships between people mentioned in the Plea Rolls. I have been trying to use Google Translate from Latin to English but it makes no sense, I think because it is hard to know what some of the letters in each word are.

In 1 & 2 I am trying to find how Nicholas Tooly of Burmington and John Busbye of Cleveley are related (I suspect cousins by marriage - John Busbye is the son of William Busby, William Busby had a brother called John and this John has a daughter [Christian name unknown] that married Nicolas Busby [no source found but John's widow Agnes calls Nicholas her son in her 1557/8 will, he is either from an unknown 1st marriage or he married a Busby).

1) CP 40/1295 (Michaelmas 1571) [Index at AALT | Image at AALT]
County: London; Persons: John Busbye; Nicholas Tooly; Places: Cleveley; Burmyngton
2) CP 40/1296 (Michaelmas 1571) [Index at AALT | Image at AALT]
County: London; Persons: John Busbye; Nicholas Tooley; Places: Cleveley; Burmyngton

In 3 & 4 I am wondering whether there is any indication as to how William, John and Nicholas Tooley are related.

3) CP 40/1507 (Hilary 1593) [Index at AALT | Image at AALT]
County: London; Persons: William Tooley; John Watson; Christopher Humfrey; Susan Humfrey; Nicholas Tooley; John Tooley; Places: London; Burmyngton; Birmington
4) CP 40/1509 (Hilary 1593) [Index at AALT | Image at AALT]
County: London; Persons: William Tooley; John Watson; Christopher Humfrey; Susan Humfrey; Nicholas Tooley; John Tooley; Places: London; Burmyngton

Thank you for taking the time to read my message
Best wishes,
Emma

Link - https://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/aalt/cp40_search.php?s=1&soundexsurname=1&surname=&soundexforename=1&forename=&place=burmyngton&after=&before=&county=0

Hi,
I have been looking at Thomas Busby's 1575 will from St Giles Cripplegate. In it he mentions his cousins living in Lytleton, Bedds on pg 2.

I have tried to find this place on modern maps but can't find it. I just wondered if any one had come across this name and knows what the place is now called please?

Many thanks in advance,
Best wishes,
Emma

 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5111/records/916389?tid=&pid=&queryId=694463b8-50e9-4692-a368-da237f908cf4&_phsrc=rod11304&_phstart=successSource

As I understand it, Andrew Clark's English translation (1905-1911) omitted some of the detail that is in the original. Hence the searchable English edition on line might not deliver where the original might.
Can you confirm?

Hi,
Thank you for getting back to me, I am not sure about Andrew Clark's translation as I have not been able to look at a copy. I haven't been able to find an online version of either version covering the years of interest or the place of interest (c. 1400 onwards re Great Tew). Given that the stone effergy in the church is supposed to be of an Abess of Godstow and that Godstow owned property there I was hoping to see a bit more mention of it.

William Busby/Bosby was buried there in 1513 and has a brass but no will that I can find. A probable descendant, Richard Busbye does leave a will in 1539 leaving considerable property, presumably some was inherited. It is possible that William may have inherited from an ancestry and I was hoping to find traces of them in Godstow's accounts.

I have looked every where for a will for William but there appears to be nothing at the PCC (although I have found others in the past that had been miss translated or catalogued) and the Consistory Court of Oxford doesn't start until 1516 on FindMyPast. I am not sure where wills were proved for the area prior to 1516 so the Cartulary of Godstow was my next hope!!

Best wishes,
Emma