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On further reflection another giveaway is the white cap.  Until the mid 1950s they were still in black caps.  My vote goes to late 1950s or very early 1960s.  If he was an Artificer and you can let me have a name I'll check the records of the Fisgard Association.  They try to keep track of as many as possible old "Tiffies"

Clive P

Sorry for the delayed response, family life got in the way of research. If the offer still stands, his name was Alan Brook. If it is the family member we think it is, he was born on 28th May 1920 in Keighley, West Yorkshire. His full name was Alan Mitchell Brook (son of James and Ethel Eugenie (Smith) Brook. We think his parents divorced (they were living apart on the 1939 register) and his Mother remarried and her surname became Leeming.


Many thanks

CJ

Has anyone managed to find any inmates of the hospital on the 1921 census?

I have been searching for a relative who was living there in 1939.  She was married had 3 children (one died young).  Her son Edgar (b1901) was brought up by his Paternal Grandmother and Paternal Aunt and her Daughter Annie Butler (b1908) was brought up by my great Grandparents.  I cannot find Annie or her Mother Hannah (Murgatroyd) Butler (b1868) on the 1921 census.  Annie's Father Charles (b1873) looks to be living alone in Keighley, where his wife and children were born. Annie was brought up as a daughter by my great Grandparents, no differently to their own 5 children.  They also lived in Keighley, yet Charles was rarely if ever mentioned by my Grandma, her siblings or Annie.  We do not know when Hannah was placed in the hospital but Annie was taken in as a child/teenager so I would think that Hannah might be in the hospital in 1921, especially so as her husband appears to be alone on the census.  I have not seen the actual census but when you hover over the option to buy it lists others living in the household and no names come up on Charles's but I cannot find Annie, even searching under Butter (as the name is often misread).  I cannot find any records of anyone in the hospital and wondered if anyone else had found people living there.

Thank you in advance
CJ

Thank you all for your replies.  The names are all my son in law's grandfather (Seamus, later went by James 1943-2000) as far as we are aware he moved to England after the death of his parents, and died in 2000 in Yorkshire.  His Brother Eddie also moved to England, and sadly died (cannot find his death but drowned) again in Yorkshire. As far as we know these 2 were the youngest 2 of the 19 and were sent to England whilst children/teens.  The only other sibling names we know are Harry who became a priest in Ireland and has since died, and Margaret and Rosalyn who stayed in Ireland and we are not aware of whether they are still alive.  We only know that they came from Derry but no other details.  Both of Seamus's parents died within a few months of one another and we think that they were sent to England after these deaths, some siblings went to Canada. I will try and get in touch with GRONI after Corona has gone and see if they can help with Seamus's birth certificate.  As he is passed, I assume that they (if they can find it) would be able to help.  Would I need to have his death certificate to prove he is passed?  As in a lot of cases, because of the sad events that lead to the children being split, a lot of the details were not discussed and those that were often became like chinese whispers where details became confused.

Many thanks for the pointers, I will update if I find any more information

CJ

Thank you, as the one above them is Thomas Millsome I wanted to make sure that with them both starting with Thomas that they weren't linked in any way.  I can now move on.

Thanks again

CJ