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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« on: Monday 19 July 21 10:58 BST (UK)  »
That's brilliant, it allowed me to finally confirm what i had deduced, that my ancestor William Woodworth (after, Woodward) and his wife and baby son did indeed embark on the "Bebington" Sadly the baby died a month before they reached NZ. Now if I could just find decent info on the correct family of Woodworths back in the UK... ::)

Thanks Spades!

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Antrim / Re: Church
« on: Tuesday 23 October 18 00:31 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Elwyn and Aghadowey!
Some interesting stuff there, chuckled a bit at the Banagher bloopers!
I just wish I was still living in the UK, I'd have been over to Co. Antrim by now. I hope to move back eventually, although I'm a Kiwi-Aussie I'm a shameless Anglophile!

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Antrim / Re: Church
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 07:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 21 October 18 01:13 BST (UK)
Rasharkin Presbyterian church was probably in existence long before 1830. Its just that it doesn’t have any records earlier than that. That’s not uncommon in Ireland. Few churches have records for the 1700s. There are only 6 or 7 Presbyterian churches in the whole of Co. Antrim with pre 1800 records. That’s out of probably 150 churches.

The nearest Presbyterian church to Rasharkin is probably Killymurris. It was founded in 1796, as an overflow church for Clough (which was established in the 1600s). However it’s Minister didn’t keep any baptism or marriage records till 1845. So a similar story.

Presbyterian is the main denomination in Scotland, and was brought to Ireland by Scots settlers. Church of Ireland is the Church of England, in Ireland. Sometimes referred to as Episcopalian.
Thanks for clarifying that Elwyn, knew Scotland was Presby, but wasn't sure if the Scots settled in Ireland were that, or whether the COI was the "replacement"  :) Were the 18th & 19th century ministers in Ireland like the Anglican ones I've read about in England? Ie often gentlemen but not heirs, who saw the church as a cushy living? If so, it would account for their slack record-keeping!  ;)
My sister said is there any site with photos of the gravestones etc? I explained to her that there are sites with inscriptions recorded, and that some people take pics, but our ancestors were shoemakers and linen weavers, so unlikely to have the funds for headstones!

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Antrim / Re: Church
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 00:59 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: aghadowey on Saturday 28 October 06 09:54 BST (UK)
Yes Agnetta, there are several Presbyterian Church in Ballymoney and lots just outside.
1st Ballymoney, 2nd Ballymoney (Trinity- started as a Seceder church) & 3rd Ballymoney (St. James'-once known as 2nd Ballymoney but a split from 1st in 1834, so not the correct church). Also Ballymoney Reformed Presbyterian on Charlotte St.
Nearby (just from memory)- Mosside, Toberkeigh (1830), Roseyards (also known as Derrykeighan), Armoy, Drumreagh, Benvarden (don't think it goes back far enough), Dervock (also known as Derrykeighan), Dunloy (too recent), Finvoy, 1st Kilraught, Rasharkin (only started 1830).

I see the IGI has 3 entries listing David Rosborough m.1820 Ballymoney to Elizabeth. Unfortunately none of the records give the source of this information. David is listed as being born at Drumart but usually (although not always) the marriage would have taken place at the bride's church.

P.S. name often spelt Roxborough, Roxborrow, Rosborrow, etc.

Hello, I came across this whilst having yet another frustrating look for info on my McMeekin/Cochrane ancestors from Rasharkin. If the Presbyterian church in Rasharkin only started in 1830, do you know where people like my ancestors have been attending prior to this? From the 1851 census they were in Killydonnelly and Killycreen townlands. I always get confused between Presbyterian and Church of Ireland!  :-\

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Selkirkshire / Re: Stewarts of Yarrow
« on: Thursday 16 November 17 07:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Monica, whoops, I had the wrong bit of the tree there, sorry! Thanks for the info, such a pain not being able to find them, have found so many others through Scotland's People, even one ancestor "born in fornication"  :o made it in to the register!
Definitely not RC, so guess they just never got around to it, or, as you say, the records were lost.
I hope to go back to the UK to live at some point, and I'll definitely be going to Selkirkshire.
Already discovered I have lots of ancestors from Dumfries and Galloway, which is one of my favourite corners of the UK, so good excuse to revisit there  :)

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Ireland / Re: Harris Hunter, Ireland
« on: Thursday 16 November 17 04:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Hallmark and gaffy and aghadowey.
People here are very helpful,wish I'd discovered Rootschat earlier!  :)

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Ireland / Re: Harris Hunter, Ireland
« on: Wednesday 15 November 17 06:12 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: gaffy on Tuesday 14 November 17 09:43 GMT (UK)
The only earlier reference to someone called Harris Hunter I could see (ie. earlier than Harris Hunter the Ballymena miller and his wife Rose Hunter) was in the tithe applotment books, he was living in the townland of 'Cruckanolly' in Skerry (1825) - which is otherwise Knockanully:

http://www.placenamesni.org/resultdetails.php?entry=16430
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-lower/skerry/knockanully/

No sign of him there by the time of Griffith's Valuation though (local print date 1862).
Thanks,  :) can I access the tithe applotment books online anywhere?

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Ireland / Re: Harris Hunter, Ireland
« on: Sunday 12 November 17 07:59 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 12 November 17 06:18 GMT (UK)
Statutory death registration started in Ireland in 1864. There’s only 1 Harris Hunter death in the period 1864 to 1921:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1895/05925/4682338.pdf

He died in Antrim town workhouse on 22.7.1895 aged 77. He was a widower and had been a miller.  If the Antrim workhouse admission records have survived, they will be in PRONI in Belfast and might tell you a little more about him.

There are a number of Elizabeth/Eliza Hunter deaths in Antrim in the period 1864 to 1895 that could be a wife, but those records are not on-line free. You would need to pay to view them on the GRONI site.
Thanks very much for the quick reply Elwyn (which coincidentally is my eldest sister's name, spelt Alwyn)!
That could be his son, as the Harris Hunter I'm looking for fathered his daughter Elizabeth in abt 1813. It certainly is tricky finding Irish records, have run into walls for rellies on both sides of the family, Campbells and McMeekins. One day I'll get to Rasharkin and have a poke around the churchyard!  :)
Niki

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Ireland / Harris Hunter, Ireland
« on: Sunday 12 November 17 01:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hello
I am wondering if anyone else has come across my ancestor Harris Hunter and his wife Elizabeth Hunter (nee Lamont). I only have their names from the record of their daughter Elizabeth Hunter Campbell's death in Barnhill Poorhouse on 29.06.1897. Harris doesn't even have an occupation listed, I doubt there's any "gentlemen" in our family though!  ;)
Elizabeth H Campbell  may have had a brother John Hunter, as the 1851 census shows John & Sarah Hunter (both b about 1824 in Ireland) and their son John living with her and husband Nathaniel Campbell and family. May also be a cousin, as the death record I found for John Hunter shows parents as John Hunter and Martha Allan.
I wish I even knew which area of Ireland to look at!  ???

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