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Dear Dottie

I do appreciate your time in trying to find the marriage for me.  It is so frustrating when the microfiche is blurred.  From your information, about her birth being registered on the Lancashire Parish Clerk Website, I now believe her surname was Holme and not Holmes.  In fact looking at my great grandfather's birth certificate, her surname is written as Holme with a slight line at the end which I assumed was where the 's' had been cut off.

I would be really grateful if you could possibly confirm where you found the marriage registered on BMD Lancashire (year, district quarter, and under which names.)

I have looked on BMD Lancashire and I am unable to find it.  On 1837 I found a marriage of Elizabeth Holme in 1849 Sept Quarter XXV with a district which was written as W/Ward.  However, I couldn't find a William Davis with the same details to connect them.  (Would you know what District W/Ward is?) 

Thank you for your time


Holmes

Dear Dottie

Unsure if you are still able to do look ups.  I sent you a message in February,  you may remember, my original message is below. 

I have searched Birmingham Records and the Birmingham register office have no trace in Bham of a marriage of Elizabeth Holmes to William Davis in Bham area about 1845-1849.

You did suggest this may have been Elizabeth's second marriage.  With this in mind, I have traced a marriage of Elizabeth Sarah Holmes to William Wilson in 1845 in Lewisham, Greater London.  The death of a William Wilson in 1846 in Blackburn and then a marriage of Betty Wilson to William Davis in Blackburn June Quarter in 1849.   Is there anyway that you may be able to find the parish records for the second marriage in 1849 to see if Elizabetrh Holmes was  described as a widow.  Or if you could perhaps trace her birth in 1827 for her parents details?   I would be really grateful.  Thank you for any help you may be able to offer.

Original message:

I am trying to find details of Birth for my great great Grandmother, Elizabeth Holmes (or could be Holme or Holmer) born abt 1827 in Blackburn. 

Also her marriage to William Davis.  This could have been In Blackburn area or Birmingham.  I am trawling through GRO indexes and found no marriage to date. 

Is it possible to find her on 1841 census in Blackburn, she would have been 14.

On 1851 1871 census she was living in Aston Birmingham with husband William Davis (a mathematical Instrument maker and journeyman) and their family.  William and their children were all born in Birmingham.  The birth certificate for their son Samuel Davis provided her maiden name.  Their eldest child on 1851 census was Eliza, born in 1849.

Thank you

Holmes

Thank you Anna.  I live in the Midlands so its not easy to see the area for myself. 

I have found a Clements Lane on the London A-Z which seems to be by the Strand and close to St Giles Church.  The bride and her father lived in Clements Lane in 1841. 

This would make sense as the wedding was at St Giles in the Fields Parish church in 1849.  The brides father was an eating house keeper and the groom and the grooms father were both sailors.  Both residences were Hughes Fields.  Its hard to imagine fields in the centre of London.  It would be lovely to have photos or drawings of these places.  Nevermind.

I must make a trip to the city to see for myself.  Thanks again.

I have details of a marriage on 19 August 1849 at St Giles Church, Middlesex for the bride & groom both resident at Hughes Fields, Middlesex.  Can anyone tell me where Hughes Fields is located?  The 1841 census shows the bride living in Clements Lane.  Would this be close??

Thank you