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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian 1700 1930
« on: Saturday 20 October 18 15:24 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: neil raymond on Sunday 10 May 09 14:15 BST (UK)
hi my name is Neil R W Sives one of 4 sons to John Sives born in 1908 ( Dads) family are from spott Dundar East Lothian his father was William Sives & Mary Sutherland William served in ww1 in the Cameron Highlanders.he survived the was and died in a nursing home in east lothian in 1955 I think. I dont have any information to the birth of William or his parents as yet.as this is all new for me I feel it is my task to make then come alive to future genarations from my branch of the SIVES clan.if anyone can help would be greatfully received.

Neil
Neil how are you?
I'm from Argentina and I'm putting together the SIVES family.
I do not have the names of your brothers would be so kind to pass me your direct relatives (brothers and their wives and children).
I await your answers.
Thank you

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Tuesday 09 October 18 10:31 BST (UK)  »
Monica

My great-grandfather Archibald Sives (born approximately in 1845) married Caroline Philpott (1862-1850) and they had their first child in 1882 Heribert Archibald Sives (1882-1933)
Could it be the same Archibald Sives (1840-?) Who married Helen Robertson? in first nuptials on 06 JUL 1865 Dundee, Angus, Scotland. And on 01 JUN 1866 Archibald Sives was born in DUNDEE, ANGUS, SCOTLAND.

What you say?

I do not find anything about Caroline Philpott, daughter of William Henry Philpott and Caroline Pierce.

Norberto

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Saturday 06 October 18 11:23 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Wilton Endeavour on Friday 05 October 18 20:21 BST (UK)
I have the following Sives in my family tree:-
Alexander Sives, Farm Servant. Born 1822 Gladsmuir, East Lothian.
Married Christine Simpson who was born 1822 Haddingtonshire.

Alexander and Christine had a daughter, Lilias Marion Sives born 14 September 1856. Gilchristian Parish, Salton, Haddington.
Lilias married Andrew Johnston who was a Farm Labourer/Ploughman.
Lilias died in 1907.

I wonder if they link into your Sives ancestors?

Wilton Endeavour
excellent contribution
There data that I did not have. I thank you, I am updating my tree. If you can contribute more of them, welcome.
lilian brothers:
joan, alexander, john, george, agnes, william, robert
from lilian's family I do not have any information.
If you have more to pass me, children of Lilian and other descendants.

Thanks Wlton

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Friday 05 October 18 18:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: MonicaL on Thursday 04 October 18 21:05 BST (UK)
What do you have as possible occupation(s) for Archibald in Argentina? Any family stories of him being at sea for a living before he settled there following his marriage to Carolina?

Monica

Thanks again for your time.
Regarding what I have: No information. Only that I work in the field. But nothing more.

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Thursday 04 October 18 06:15 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: MonicaL on Wednesday 03 October 18 22:57 BST (UK)
Your English is very good, Norbierto. No te preocupes de eso!

Not sure we are on the right track with the latest possibilities and names unfortunately. Archibald, son of Archibald Sives and Helen Robertson was born on 1 June 1866 in Dundee Scotland. If there is any connection, it would be with the father not the son b. 1866. If we go with the birth year you have for your Archibald, we are looking at a birth year for him c. 1840s. Archibald and Helen Robertson were married in July the year before, 1865, also in Dundee.

Not seeing them in 1871 but I think something happens with Archibald Snr born c.1840 as Helen shows as married to a John Gorrie on the 1881 census. In the household is her 14yr old son Archibald Sives:

John Gorrie 35 Calender Worker b. Dundee
Helen Gorrie 40 b. Cupar Angus
Archd Gorrie 14 mill worker b. Dundee

Address: 294 Hawkhill, St Peter Angus

Helen Robertson died in Dundee aged 55 in 1894 (other names Sives and Gorrie also show on the index for her).

No sign of a death in Scotland for Archibald born c. 1840s. No sign also of a marriage between John Gorrie and Helen either.

Monica

Monica:
Then my Archibald of 1845 could be this Archibald of 1840 who married Helen, and then I migrated to Argentina.
It would have to find that connection.
I ask: Is there no possibility to get a record of people who migrated, for example Argentina from Dondee, Scotland? in those years
Also thanks for all the information you gave me

Norberto

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Tuesday 02 October 18 20:58 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: MonicaL on Thursday 16 November 17 19:23 GMT (UK)
As you mention, you need to try to confirm your g grandfather's approx birth year from documents in Argentina at the very least to help you further now I would suggest. Have you and family enquiries as to whether there are copies of his marriage, death and burial records?

There is a possible death showing for the Archibald, son of Archibald Sives and Mary Alcock in 1940 in Bradford, aged 85 (fitting well an 1855 birth year). This is also where Archibald and wife Rachel showed in later years. Rachel died in 1922 it seems. Cannot be the same Archibald that you are searching for and no other candidate showing in England in those times that you are looking at  :-\

Monica

Hello Monica. How are you?
I continue with the investigation of the surname Sives and trying to unite it with the family of Scotland / England.
I have a fact that my great-grandfather could be the son of Archibald Sives (1840) and Helen Robertson (1848)
Parents: john, joan (johanna)
siblings: john, joan, james b, janet
half brothers: john, alexander
Do you have any certificate that I can join this data?
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I'm asking you since it's a little difficult for me with the language.
I do not speak English very well.
I wait your answer.
regards

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Thursday 16 November 17 05:24 GMT (UK)  »
I got these documents. I still have to confirm the date of my great-grandfather's birth.

baptism


married sives-alcock


censo 1861

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: A "fun" one to find
« on: Wednesday 01 November 17 04:39 GMT (UK)  »
Give me your email and I invite you to see my family tree. There are some Burns

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: SIVES - East Lothian - 1650/1890
« on: Monday 30 October 17 09:53 GMT (UK)  »
If I'm anxious to see that certificate.
Thank you Tom.
And when you have it, if you want to send your email, we will analyze it. Gladly I share it.
regards

Norberto

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