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Europe / Re: Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Tuesday 15 July 25 11:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi Justin

Your insight on equivalent names is fascinating.

So can Cohen be interchangeable with Levi?

Therefore is it possible that this record on Synagogue Scribes is a daughter of Jacob's? It has Jesse/Shprintsa - daughter of privileged member (which we know Jacob was) Levi Cohen the Warden deceased (which would also fit as Jacob died in 1815).

Family Name   COHEN
Forenames   Jesse
Hebrew Name   Shprintsa (Dau. of a Privd Member)
Event   Marriage
Date   1816 [26 Jun]
Father’s Hebrew Name   Levi Cohen the Warden deceased   
Spouse   DAVIDSON Meyer

I'm also interested in the Jonas family, as one of the brothers Godfrey married Frances Jonas. Her record on Synagogue Scribes shows her father is Jesse - what does this normally pair with?

Reference   GSM 114/19
Family Name   JONAS
Forenames   Frances
Hebrew Name   Brynla
Event   Marriage
Date   1808 [27 Apr]
Father’s Hebrew Name   Jesse Sapir [sofer / scribe]
Spouse   COHEN Godfrey Alexander

Could this be her father?
Reference   GSM 014/7
Family Name   JONES
Forenames   Henry
Hebrew Name   Naphtali Hirtz
Event   Marriage
Date   1793 [23 Oct]
Father’s Hebrew Name   Yehuda from Cassel
Spouse   MYERS Fanny

Jacob had a step son Solomon Cassel from his 2nd wife Springze who was married before Jacob to Dr Leib Cassel.

Maybe I'm not making much sense, but there might be connections in the names which lead me to where they come from, and I could potentially look in the Jewish records from there.

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Europe / Re: Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Sunday 13 July 25 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Justin

Thank you for all that truly interesting and helpful information about the name pairs, which as you say very sadly seems to knock off Leib Cohen of Lissa as a possible fit. Your links though are a wonderful window to Jewish Copenhagen, and I can translate the text courtesy of Google. Hours of fun thank you! It may be that all the information available is through that link which I can happily now access, and there wouldn't be any more after paying the £35 for membership. I will maybe wait another week to see what the Jewish community is able to access. But at least now I have something very concrete to start with, for which I am super grateful!

On Brodum, thank you again for reminding me about this name, I think he is a red herring as I seem to have concluded in my research before (Brodum died in 1824 aged 68 not 1815, address Great Coram Street not Whitechapel, wife Cecilia not Springze) - I should have reread my original Cohen thread where I also posted that same article, apologies for repetition. Brodum must be a different Jacob Cohen to the one I'm researching.

I think I need to nudge the relative in Australia who I've asked to look at the Bible notes which suggest Jacob was born in Copenhagen in 1745, to see what other info there is there.

Thank you so much for your help, I will keep digging :)

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Europe / Re: Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Tuesday 08 July 25 20:44 BST (UK)  »
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Europe / Re: Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Tuesday 08 July 25 20:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Justin

As you gathered, I have already done plenty of work on this Cohen family, I have a lot of records and evidence to back everything up. As a very brief summary, the man I started with is Judah Cohen who was one of Jacob's 3 sons (the other 2 Edward and Godfrey Alexander). Judah was born in London in 1782. I have his father Jacob's will which mentions these 3 sons as well as his first late wife Esther and 2nd wife Springze. They are also all mentioned in the synagogue (synagogue scribes) records which includes Jacob's marriage info.

Up until a couple of days ago, I had no concrete evidence as to where Jacob was born, I just knew from a note on his son Edward's Freedom of the City record (see attached) that Jacob was born abroad, that Edward was 'son of one of the Hebrew nation, who was not born in England'.

Another descendant in Australia (Godfrey's son John Godfrey sailed to Australia in 1835) on Godfrey's branch has also been doing a lot of research, and discovered in another branch in Australia that an original painting of Godfrey as well as a bible had been handed down. Notes in the bible stated that Jacob was born in Copenhagen in 1745. So that's what I'm trying to back up, and to see what other family members might be documented in Copenhagen.

One other extremely bizarre discovery that I made last year, which now rings possibly true, is a very long newspaper article in the Durham County Advertiser (20 Oct 1821) written 6 years after Jacob's death by a Jonathan Dawnplucker (?) which suggests that Jacob managed to con his way to obtain a doctors degree from Aberdeen in order to authenticate selling some medicine, and made a huge amount of money from it. Whoever wrote the article had a very clear vendetta against Jacob. I had dismissed it all as impossibly bizarre, but now that I have another source pointing to Copenhagen, maybe there's something in it. An old bailey record has testimony from a Jacob Cohen who says he was a slop seller in Rosemary Lane, which is where the article says he worked. There are so many small facts in the article which actually seem to add up. The article talks about a Dr Leo, which was the maiden name of his 2nd wife (according to the synagogue scribes website). I have attached the file for anyone who might have any thoughts on it!

On a first look at the Danish records on Family Search (through the link kindly posted by Fiddlerslass), it appeared that there were Jewish names among the Christian ones, although as I have no Danish I couldn't be sure what I was looking at. I also thought I saw some 1700s census records. I have written to the Jewish community in Copenhagen to see if they can help find any records.

Thank you for your continued help and interest!

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Europe / Re: Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Monday 07 July 25 20:57 BST (UK)  »
Thank you fiddlerslass, particularly for the JewishGen link, I've asked the question 'over there' on JewishGen too.

There also seem to be a lot of interesting documents on family search, I'll have to get my eye in with the Danish to work out what they are.

Many thanks for the links.

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Europe / Copenhagen birth 1745: Jacob Isaacher COHEN
« on: Monday 07 July 25 07:03 BST (UK)  »
I am new to the records in Denmark, I would love any guidance as to where I might find birth, marriage, death records for the Cohen family living in Copenhagen, particularly Jacob Isaacher Cohen who was born in 1745. Jacob's father was Judah I think. They left Denmark when Jacob was small and moved to London. Thank you so much :)

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Donegal / Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« on: Wednesday 14 May 25 12:11 BST (UK)  »
Actually I can slightly redeem myself. When I went back to order the online info this morning, the credit option wasn't showing at first, I came out but went back to take a screenshot to check I wasn't going mad, then went back in and the credit option showed up. So I think the system might be a bit sensitive.

Anyway, all is good, I managed to cancel the paper version (thank you aghadowey) and now have the online info. So it appears that Simon probably wasn't based in Dundee, that's just where he went to hospital following his appendicitis and then got pneumonia. Seems he was living/staying with his son John in Cupar, Fife and working on a farm.


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Donegal / Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« on: Tuesday 13 May 25 22:01 BST (UK)  »
I obviously wasn't looking properly :(

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Donegal / Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« on: Tuesday 13 May 25 21:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, maybe I'll try and cancel the post order and do it as you suggest, it wasn't obvious that was an option.

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