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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Hill, St Helier? birth, marriage ~1840
« on: Friday 24 February 06 01:37 GMT (UK)  »
Ah well -- no news is still news!

I greatly appreciate your doing that for me, really enormously.  It's something that I now know that I couldn't have known otherwise -- that there's no evidence to be found of that birth and marriage in that place, even though they may still have happened there (and I'll likely never know that, unless I somehow find 'em somewhere else).

If I can ever do anything to return the favour, you know where to find me!

Kathryn

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Hill, St Helier? birth, marriage ~1840
« on: Sunday 12 February 06 20:47 GMT (UK)  »
... continued


So I tell my tale to anyone for whom there is the slightest possibility that it might set off a bell.  Your father isn't my gr-grandfather of course -- unless you're very very old!  Is your Hill family of long standing in Jersey?  There might yet be a connection, if so.

I am enormously grateful for your offer to look through records for me!  A bottle of fine Canadian wine would be coming your way, whether the search was successful or not -- evidence of absence would be better than the present absence of evidence!  Of course, I guess it would still be absence of evidence, I'd just know for sure that the evidence was absent. ;)

I just hope I haven't bored you to sleep, at this point ...

I'd love to hear more about your own Hill-Jersey connection of course, too, to see whether there might be anything that looks like a possible piece of my puzzle.

I'll look forward to hearing what you might find, and again, huge thanks.

Kathryn


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Hill, St Helier? birth, marriage ~1840
« on: Sunday 12 February 06 20:45 GMT (UK)  »
Goodness -- quelle coincidence! and what a generous offer.

Emma Hill appears in both the 1851 and 1861 censuses in England, as follows:

1851: in Linkinhorne, as Mary Emma Hill, age 8, with the place of birth transcribed (at Ancestry) as "Jersey, Cornwall, England".  On the original document, the "ditto" for Cornwall has clearly been scratched out. 

1861: in St Andrew, Devon, as Emma Hill, age 18, born in Jersey.


I've searched the jerseymaid site with the 1841 Channel Islands census on line, for Sarah Bond/Hill and Francis Hill, with no luck. 


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Hill, St Helier? birth, marriage ~1840
« on: Sunday 12 February 06 19:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks!  I gather that the Moncks in question, of Charleville House, hail from County Wicklow, Ireland.

Thanks for the pointer!  And I'll just keep hoping that there is some record of Francis & Sarah Hill, and their daughter Emma, on Jersey somewhere that I find someday, and it tells me something ....

 

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Devon Completed Lookup Requests / Re: help! deciphering an 1871 census scan
« on: Sunday 29 January 06 19:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks very much!  I'd guessed this and that (Bigginton, Biffinton ...), but was just going from the handwriting.

Yes, accents, lack of geographic knowledge on the part of the enumerator, possibly illiteracy on the part of the enumerated.

Unfortunately, I'm not finding any Huberts with anything at all to do with Devon anywhere anyhow.  ("Minnie Hubert", one of only a couple, is actually a Herbert.)  But now I know something to look out for -- thanks again!


PS -- tried to post this shortly after your reply, but it wouldn't post, and then I was unable to connect to RootsChat at all.  Hope it works this time.

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Devon Completed Lookup Requests / help! deciphering an 1871 census scan
« on: Sunday 29 January 06 01:41 GMT (UK)  »
I'm a furriner (in Canada, all grandparents from England) and not familiar with the geography / place names.

I'm looking at the scan for <b>Charles Hulbert</b> (actually Hubert, I think, mistranscribed) and his wife Emma in Battersea, Surrey, in 1871.

The place of birth has been transcribed as "<b>Bypinton</b>", Devon.  As far as I can tell, no such place exists/existed, and my efforts at Google to find anything I can guess from the handwriting have failed.

The entry is on page 29 of
 1871 England Census > Surrey > Battersea > District 15

Can anyone tell me what it says, or know off hand what place in Devon it's likely referring to?

Thanks for any and all help!




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Duh, what an amateur I am. ;)

Household schedule numbers, that hadn't occurred to me.  Flipped two pages, or messed one up, or something.

Thanks very much for pointing out the obvious to me!


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Hill, St Helier? birth, marriage ~1840
« on: Friday 27 January 06 16:31 GMT (UK)  »
In 1851 & 1861, my ancestors included Ernest and:
Mary Emma Hill, shown as born ~1843 in Jersey. 
I haven't been able to trace her after that -- the name Hill is in the common as dirt category, and identifying a marriage or death in the on-line databases is hopeless.

Given the parents' ages, their absence from the 1841 census and the date of Emma's birth (she is the eldest in the 1851 household in Linkinhorne), I would think they might have married on Jersey between about 1837 and 1842.

Emma would have been born between ~March 1842 and March 1843, to show as aged 8 in the 1852 census.

I know of no family connection with Jersey. The surname Monck is connected somehow, and there are a few Moncks in Jersey, but I see no connection with them.

So I'm looking for two things:

marriage of
Francis Hill,
Sarah Bond,
1837-1842, Jersey

birth/christening of
Mary Emma Hill
~Mar 1842 - ~Mar 1843, Jersey

Any assistance with finding records of those events will be most gratefully received!



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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 census, Jersey?
« on: Friday 27 January 06 15:58 GMT (UK)  »
Just fyi, the transcription database at Ancestry has Eliza, Elize and Eliza all listed as "Elija".  Duh.

I've submitted corrections for each, with the following explanation:

Obvious; the "i" is dotted, not the "z", and female persons are not named "Elija".  The surname appears to be Kelling, but may be Killing.

 

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