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Antrim / Re: william john rowney 1875
« on: Friday 03 July 20 17:34 BST (UK)  »
The Samuel Rowney who was murdered on 28 February 1961 was the son of Samuel Rowney (1870-1934) and Catherine Daly (1871-1954). His father had been a colour sergeant in the British army before WW1 and the family had spent a lot of time out in India. In fact two of his children died young out there. Samuel never married but he had two brothers: William Thomas Rowney (1899-1963) and and a Charles Harold Rowney (1913-1980). They both reached adulthood and have left descendants in the Manchester area where Samuel and Catherine moved after army life.

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Saturday 29 September 18 09:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you.

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Friday 28 September 18 08:35 BST (UK)  »
The Sarah living at 47 St Kilda Street is definitely not Samuel's elder sister. That lady never married and is buried in the family plot in Belfast City Cemetery (Plot. G1 488). 'My' branch of the Pattersons moved into St Kilda Street about the time that part of it was built in 1900 at number 49, and later married girls (Sarah Longridge and Ellen Rowney) occupied other houses in hte street at different times.

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Friday 28 September 18 08:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for this. It provides the earliest address that I have for Samuel Patterson and Lizzie (Thompson).

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Thursday 27 September 18 21:35 BST (UK)  »
Samuel Todd Patterson was born in the first quarter of 1895 (a twin with John Thompson Patterson), and died on 15 July 1929. His funeral was a major event at the time.

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:50 BST (UK)  »
I believe it was Thompson. Her dates were 1865-1936, There are quite a few Pattersons on the Find A Grave website (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/122439553/samuel-patterson), but nothing that links to 'my' Pattersons.

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Antrim / Re: Samuel Patterson
« on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:32 BST (UK)  »
Yes this is indeed the Elias that I've been considering. He's 27 when he marries Eleanor Hall in 1870, so that's a birth in about 1843. He dies sometime after 1924 (Eleanor's death). The 1932 Directory has daughter Sarah moving into 49 in 1932, so I presume he is dead by then. The 1870 marriage has Elias' father's name as Samuel.  I was wondering whether Elias and the 1864-born Samuel might be brothers.

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Antrim / Samuel Patterson
« on: Thursday 27 September 18 19:46 BST (UK)  »
In July 1929 there was a sad incident in the River Lagan with a young lad drowning and an unemployed man, Samuel Todd Patterson, also losing his life in a vain attempt at rescue.  I'm trying to see if this Samuel Patterson fits into my family tree. 

At the time of his death, Samuel was said to be living at 47 St Kilda Street, Belfast. The time is that at 49 was old Elias Patterson with 47 housing his daughter Sarah and her husband Thomas Longridge.  Unless there is a strange coincidence in the surnames (and these things do happen), there's every change that family connections brought the unemployed Samuel and his family to lodge with relatives at 47.

I know that Samuel was the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Patterson (of 5 Jocelyn Street) and that the dates of this elder Samuel are 1864-1943.  Does anyone know of a connection between him/them and Elias Patterson's family?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: 1699 Nuneaton baptismal term
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 12:13 GMT (UK)  »
That thought had occurred to me too; it's definitely an initial 'p'.  I was unsure whether there might have been a different term if, for example, the baby has been baptised at home.  I had been toying with something like a contracted version of 'presented'.

Do you have any ideas on the word added as an afterthought between the first two lines (above 'William')?

Thank you anyway.

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