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Durham / Re: Walkerfield - Durham
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 20:38 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Raine was my 3 X great grandfather, baptised 1802 at Staindrop but but gives their abode as Wackerfield. Raine seems to be a common surname in that area

Chris
Jonathon Bowman Thornton Raine and his siblings were my 1st cousins twice removed. My grandmother was a Thornton and my 2nd great grandmother was a Bowman.

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Durham / Re: Walkerfield - Durham
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 17:17 BST (UK)  »
I have Raines in my family tree as well.

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Durham / Re: Walkerfield - Durham
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 13:56 BST (UK)  »
 ;D That explains a lot. There was an interesting discussion once on how to pronounce Houghton Le Spring. The people who were from that area said it was pronounce Horton Le Spring. That has probably been written down a few times.
Wackerfield it will be then.

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Durham / Re: Walkerfield - Durham
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 10:19 BST (UK)  »
I wonder how local people actually pronounced it. People often just wrote down what they heard without much regard to spelling.

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Durham / Re: Walkerfield - Durham
« on: Saturday 11 October 25 08:18 BST (UK)  »
I'm glad to have found this thread as I have an ancestor from Walkerfield/Wackerfield.
In Kelly's Directory it says,
'Walkerfield township is 2 miles north-west from the church. The Duke of Cleveland K.G. is lord of the manor and principal landowner. The area is 690 acres; rateable value, £1,085; the population in 1881 was 128.
— Kelly's Directory of Durham (1890)'

I think either the place was called Walkerfield, but it was changed to Wackerfield, or there are a large number of misspellings.

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The Common Room / Re: When do you have enough information?
« on: Saturday 13 September 25 20:09 BST (UK)  »
The National library of Ireland has the Catholic register as for Cobh

   Cobh Parish (Diocese of Cloyne, Ireland: Catholic) county Cork

1827 to 1863 (See link)

https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000633022
He wasn't Catholic and I don't think he would have been baptised in Cobh. His Grandfather was the vicar of St Catherines in Dublin and he would most likely have been baptised there. I have a 26cM match with people in the Knox family. Anything over 20 centiMorgans is considered to be significant, so he's unlikely to be the son of Bridie from round the corner. I have no celtic Irish in my DNA, but I do have 29% Scottish. My Irish ancestors were landed gentry and nobiity who originated from Scotland and England.

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The Common Room / Re: When do you have enough information?
« on: Saturday 13 September 25 16:52 BST (UK)  »
The church register in Queenstown could have been damaged, or the edges of the paper page worn at the top and bottom of a page that had written single line entries rubbed off, or register covering 1840 left on a shelf and forgotten about, or damage in a fire or just lost in time.

If you have made the DNA link match to Julia Knox  and your DNA to Julia Knox was through John Andrew Williams your great granddad - so you have your result and as a bonus you found Julia Williams nee Knox death place and in time hopefully the date.

Well done  :)
I don't know that the baptism was in Queenstown and I'm sceptical about the birth being there as well. The family came from Dublin and they lived in Dublin. I think the record either hasn't been digitised or it wasn't recorded. There isn't a record in the whole of Ireland for anyone at all with that name being baptised. The only other explanation is that the name was changed, but that wouldn't explain the apparent DNA connection. If he was Julia and Campbell's only son it sounds as if they really wanted to name him after Julia's brother. It's likely t o remain a mystery.

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The Common Room / Re: When do you have enough information?
« on: Friday 12 September 25 22:22 BST (UK)  »
I've checked dna matches on Ancestry and found errors in the family trees. I've also checked dna matches on Wikitree and found that I match descendants of people in the Julia (Knox)Williams tree. I woudn't be a dna match if John Andrew wasn't her son. I haven't been able to find a baptismal record for anyone anywhere in Ireland with that name. I suspect the baptism either wasn't recorded (clerical error) or it hasn't been digitised. Julia was the daughter of a Reverend and I think she would have had her son baptised.

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The Common Room / Re: When do you have enough information?
« on: Friday 12 September 25 12:45 BST (UK)  »
I need to check that the DNA links have been researched correctly. I have matches with 3rd and 4th cousins and we link back to the Knox family. I still need to make sure that they have good sources to confirm that our common ancestor really is their common ancestor.
One other thing I remembered. When I was about 18 I was engaged to a member of the aristocracy. That prompted me to ask my mother if we had any aristocracy in our family and she said we had, but she didn't know who they were.

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