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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Saturday 17 January 26 08:39 GMT (UK)  »
Lizzie looking at newspapers on Find my Past there are reports from very soon after Barney's death claiming relationship to him.

Not uncommon when a millionaire dies. My family tried it on.

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Saturday 17 January 26 08:35 GMT (UK)  »
Seems to me that we have an abundance of red herrings to chase.

I couldn’t agree more. It is verging on a comic opera.
Yet, the DNA link has been largely ignored.

I think there is a Jewish link through the Jews from Eastern Europe  but if  it was Barney Barnato  who knows.

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Friday 16 January 26 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
History of Kimberley.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Kimberley-South-Africa

So not started under that name until 1878.

I wonder what civil law there was before that date?

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Friday 16 January 26 13:15 GMT (UK)  »
This is interesting...

"...A word about his marriage and descendants may be
quoted here. Barnato met his future wife at Kimberley
in 1874, and in 1875 they were secretly married by the
civil law. Mrs. Barnato was not a Jewess, and the
marriage was certain to be bitterly opposed by the
family. She was a most able, accomplished woman,
and adopted the Hebrew faith, in which the children of
course are brought up. The eldest, Leah Primrose,
born in 1893, was named after his mother, and his first
mining venture ; Isaac Henry, and Woolf Joel Barnato
are the younger children."

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/121635356


So that is saying they married in 1875 and didn't have their first child until 1893. Not very likely.

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Thursday 15 January 26 20:35 GMT (UK)  »
This is interesting, it says many came from Lithuania, the origins of the Myersons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_South_Africa

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Thursday 15 January 26 20:17 GMT (UK)  »

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Thursday 15 January 26 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
I had seen the other thread but the link says Image Restricted. Anyone?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS74-TWYL?i=520

Same here.

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The Common Room / Re: Please help me trace my paternal family beyond my father
« on: Thursday 15 January 26 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
' Peter's mother apparently had the title of the Grand Duchesse of Higher and Lower Savoy and her brother was the Duke D'Avignon. Peter's grandfather was believed to be Louis Woolf Barnato and was the middle of three brothers.'

Can anyone find a Duke and/or Grand duchess who were around at the right time? I'm struggling

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