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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Friday 26 April 19 19:26 BST (UK)  »
Inchworm,  that would be Alfred born in 1848.  It appears we are fourth cousins, once removed.  It would be fun to add that bit of the family tree to mine.  I have not done the DNA test.

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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Friday 26 April 19 00:33 BST (UK)  »
As regards Stephen Bray; my family tree indicates that his siblings were Alfred, Alexander, Henry and Harriet.  Their parents were William (Bill) Bray (born 1833) and Ann Webb.  Bill  was the oldest child of William Bray (born 1812) and his first wife Harriet Pudney, with whom he had seven children.  Harriet passed away in 1854 and he re-married, to Sarah Ann Wingel, by whom he had another six children and adopted her child (also William). No wonder he died broke! My great grandfather was the second child of his second family and there wasn't a lot of contact between them after William (1812) died.  I do know Bill (1833)  was in Russia most of his life, and invited my great-grandfather Walter (his half-brother) to join him there around 1880.  Walter's descendants are also numerous, but all left Russia after the 1917 revolution.

If you are Stephen Bray's grandchild, we are fourth cousins.

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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Friday 26 April 19 00:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello Anna,

To pick up the thread here: My father Peter Bray would be your father Edward (Ted)'s first cousin, so we are second cousins.  I have a photograph from 1933 with your grandparents sitting together with Ted in front.  Also a handy family tree prepared about 20 years ago, but no information beyond Ted.

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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Wednesday 16 August 17 21:21 BST (UK)  »
To be clear, both my grandfather and great grandfather on my father's side were named Walter.  My great grandfather Walter 1862-1937 married Alice M. Digby.  I'm pretty sure the married in London, Wandsworth or thereabouts.  His children, in birth order, were: Walter, Alice Florence, Albert, Nancy, Florence Daisy, Frederick William, Isobelle (may have been Isabella), May (probably baptised Mary) and William.  What is your name and who are you descended from?

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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Friday 11 August 17 19:55 BST (UK)  »
Walter George Bray married Alice M. Digby.  They had nine children, of whom the oldest, also Walter, was my grandfather.  It sounds like we are the same generation - who was your Bray grandparent?  Shaun J in this discussion referred to a William Bray, married in Petersburg in 1869.  This was our William's nephew, son of his elder brother George.  Both these branches of the family lived in Russia until the revolution (100 years ago!) and they were very close.  Researching these generations is complicated by the fact that there are several Williams, Georges, Walters, Alices and Florences and combinations thereof.  In Russia they also started using the patronomyic system and occasionally Russian spellings.

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Europe / Re: Tennisist Bray from Russia
« on: Thursday 10 August 17 23:27 BST (UK)  »
George Walter Bray is a distant relative - His great grandfather was my great-great-great grandfather. There was a whole colony of Brays living in Petersburg in the later 19th centruty until 1918.  George played doubles with his second cousin Walter Vassilyevich (my grandfather).  Somewhere there is a photograph of the two of them playing together on the courts on Kristovsky island.  Both were extremely tall and thin.  I remember George's son Laurie - also very tall - playing tennis with my father Peter. Tennis was big with them all, and another cousin was a professional in London.

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Other Countries / Re: Bray Family - St. Petersburg, Russia
« on: Thursday 10 August 17 22:16 BST (UK)  »
William Bray was also my great-great grandfather, and his son Walter George was my great-grandfather.  My grandfather was Walter Bray, Florence Daisy's brother.  I assume your father was her son Edward Eales?  I have a photograph of William on my wall.

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