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Thank you for the information how annoying the wife's surnames are the same makes it more difficult to research.

Best Wishes Margie

Thank you Yes he married in Seaforth Litherland Liverpool had 9 children looking at the wills 2 Johns mention sons named Robert no Roberts in Stephensons family,

Margie

I am helping a friend with the FT looking for the Baptism or any other information before 1871 when Stephenson Steed  born Antirm c 1847 appears on the 1871 UK Census in Seaforth Litherland Liverpool (please note I can follow the family after this date .

He married in 1869 in the UK occupation Police Constable father listed as John Steed Farmer.

Any help would be appreciated Thanks Margie

Ok I am perplexed also I am in my late 70,s sometimes find it difficult to grasp the information you all have found for me but will try and explain where I am coming from :

Going back to my original post we know John Hess married Mary Quinn 1867 it says full age usually reckoning on John being 20 when he married, so is this the John who died in Wexford in 1899 age 48 birth c 1851??
Back a generation to the John Hess & Judy Cullen the first birth Ive found is Edward 1835 others followed and a John born 1841 ?? but who was he ??

So the John Hess who married Judy if Edward was the first child and they married c 1835 I would presume he was born c 1815

However it still does not explain who John Hess died 1870 age 76 birth c1794 was unless i am missing something  hope all this make sense,

Thanks Margie