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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Sunday 31 August 25 15:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Sunday 31 August 25 15:38 BST (UK)
1921 census

Mabel Irene Whitehead is the dau of James Whitehead & Rose

Mabel Irene Whitehead
Baptism Date   25 Nov 1894
Baptism Place   Northleach, Gloucestershire, England
Father   James Whitehead Mother   Rose

Image on Anc*y
Mabel Irine Whitchead age 26
Marriage 30 Mar 1921 Windrush, Gloucestershire, England
Father   James , ex policeman
Spouse   Arnold Radway Wright
One witness James Whitehead

Added
WHITEHEAD, MABEL  IRENE     BIGNELL 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 362

1901 census

Piece   2452
Folio   6
Page number   4
James Whitehead 41 Redwick, police Constable
Rose Whitehead   41
Bessie Gertrude Whitehead   14
Elsie Maud Whitehead   11
Gladys May Whitehead   9
Mable Irene Whitehead   6

Will have to renew ancestry in a bit, what are the images on Ancestry? We have an image of James in his police uniform , we found that via Gloucs police archives

Your help has been appreciated, just need to trace the graves now

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Sunday 31 August 25 15:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Ladyhawk on Sunday 31 August 25 15:13 BST (UK)
1921c James b1860 Redwick  Rose Whitehead b1859 Tetbury and married Dau Mabel Irene b1894 Northleach, Residence Windrush, Gloucestershire

Thank you for your help , I’ve ordered the death certificate and son in law A R Wright registers the death as he was present at death, I will find out if one of the daughters married a Wright 👍🏻

What does 1921c mean?

And who is Dau Mabel Irene? Their child?

We only had these below as the children from James and Gladys

    WHITEHEAD, ELSIE  MAUD      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378
   WHITEHEAD, GLADYS  MARY      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Sunday 31 August 25 14:39 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: KGarrad on Sunday 31 August 25 14:12 BST (UK)
FreeBMD.org.uk is free to use ;)

Hi , I know , however with out a DOB of birth and death and I would only class myself as a very basic family history researcher, I was hoping that one of the more experienced people on here would guide me using their knowledge of finding people using other relations

It’s also a very common name so I am drawing back loads, can anyone narrow it down ?!

James whitehead is named as grooms father at his sons wedding but it doesn’t say if he is alive or dead.

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Sunday 31 August 25 12:47 BST (UK)  »
Would anyone be able to help with a birth certificate ref and death certificate ref for James Whitehead , father of Gladys ? All I know is that he retired from Gloucestershire Police in 1912, I don’t know anything else about him, I would like to try and locate his grave

I don’t know where to even start when I don’t have any details , I’m assuming ( often a bad thing to do) is that he never strayed far from his birth area during his life .

He lived in Northleach Gloucs when he was a serving Police officer and that’s where his daughter was born.

We believe this to be his marriage :


Marriages Jun 1882   
BIGNELL    Rose        Tetbury    6a   617     

Whitehead    James         Tetbury    6a   617   

And this is the daughter

  WHITEHEAD, GLADYS  MARY      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378

Gladys was from Windrush Gloucs on her wedding cert to William George Mallett , he has an address of Highgate Bham on the wedding cert.

Bham was where they lived upon getting married in 1955, James is listed as grooms father and ex police officer


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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Monday 28 July 25 18:20 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Andrew Tarr on Monday 28 July 25 18:17 BST (UK)
Quote from: Antony1977 on Monday 28 July 25 10:10 BST (UK)
My partners family history states that a relative of hers married in 1925, groom being 21 and bride being 12 😱

Attached cert suggests it’s true

I think the handwriting doesn't suggest that at all.  Apart from the improbability of being married at 12, the written digits indicate that the writer uses a single stroke for a 1, as in the 21 above.  In any case a minister would not sanction such a marriage !


Appears back in the olden days it was allowed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Marriage_Act_1929

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Monday 28 July 25 17:47 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: MollyC on Monday 28 July 25 17:43 BST (UK)
You are quite correct and I had got myself in a twist with this!  The marriage certificate must be 1914, not 1925.  Both were aged 22, the bride being 7 months older than the groom.

Looking at age at death, they would appear to be a pair who were registered in Birmingham.

Mallett William G  61   Birmingham 9c 445  Jun 1953 - fits a birth in Apr 1892
Mallett Gladys M  77   Birmingham 9C 530  Dec 1968 - fits a birth in Sep 1891

No problem , thanks for the help

Perhaps if they were more accurate on documents back then this would t have arisen, but I suppose they never thought people from the future would have an interest in them!

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Monday 28 July 25 17:11 BST (UK)  »
I think the entry from Fiddlerslass confirms the GRO birth certificate entry

The bride is on the 1901 census with father James a police constable and mother Rose, sister Elsie Maud.

This is the birth registration of the 2 sisters, Gladys actually registered with second name Mary!

    WHITEHEAD, ELSIE  MAUD      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378
   WHITEHEAD, GLADYS  MARY      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378

  

According to FreeBMD

Gladys M Whitehead and William G Mallet were married in June quarter 1914 in the Northleach district of Gloucestershire

(June quarter cover April, May, June -- so fits the April 25th date)



 

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Monday 28 July 25 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Will do in a bit

I researched Gladys dad James, he was a ex policeman at the time of the marriage of Gladys

I’ve Found he lived in the police station in Northleach with his wife rose so that would give more weight to it being northleach Gladys and not Salford Gladys

He retired in 1912

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The Common Room / Re: Just can’t find birth cert ?
« on: Monday 28 July 25 10:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: fiddlerslass on Monday 28 July 25 10:30 BST (UK)
The bride is on the 1901 census with father James a police constable and mother Rose, sister Elsie Maud. This is the birth registration of the 2 sisters, Gladys actually registered with second name Mary!

    WHITEHEAD, ELSIE  MAUD      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378
   WHITEHEAD, GLADYS  MARY      BIGNELL     
GRO Reference: 1891  S Quarter in NORTHLEACH  Volume 06A  Page 378

Marriage
Marriages Jun 1882   
BIGNELL    Rose        Tetbury    6a   617    


Whitehead    James         Tetbury    6a   617



Thanks for your help

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