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Travelling People / Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« on: Thursday 06 July 17 13:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Poly,

Thanks very much for your message. I've also heard Salome Hedges, who was from a fairground family, linked to William Stone from one of my DNA matches. I wonder if Salome Smith and Salome Hedges are the same person? I've not found any records to help so I'm a bit stuck! I can't find anything useful in the 1901 or 1911 census when my great grandfather would have been a child.

It's possible I'm barking up the wrong tree but my DNA matches a large number of people on the Giles/Lovell tree and my 2x G Grandfather is definitely a William Stone, Romany horse dealer. 

Thanks

Hi RedRedBlue

I have this from a large document I have on the Giles/Lovell family.

(3) 1.7.1 William STONE
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Birth:   circa 1870, Wanstead Flats, Essex, England879

Probably William born Mar 1870 Romford 4a 132 or William John born June 1870 W. Ham 4a 42.

There were also other children.591

Spouse:   Salome HEDGES

The Hedges were fairground people.591


Children:   William
   Albert (1900-)
   Stephen
   Elias
   Matilda
   Kathleen

(4) 1.7.1.1 William STONE
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(4) 1.7.1.2 Albert STONE
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Birth:   18 March 1900

(4) 1.7.1.3 Stephen STONE
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Occupation:   Boxer

Stephen died in his thirties and may have had other children, but not by his wife Emily.591

Spouse:   Emily JONES
Death:   1991

Emily was from Bethnal Green and not Romany.591


Children:   Winifred (ca1931-)



Not much but hope you may get something from it.

Best wishes

Poly1963

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Travelling People / Re: Despair Loveridge / Smith
« on: Wednesday 10 May 17 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I'm a newbie on here. I'm not sure how old the thread is but I'm hoping the posters can help me. I'm trying to track down information about my grandmother's family.

I believe that I am related to poly1963 and orphan-annie, by way of William Stone, the eldest son of Stephen Stone and Matilda Giles based on the DNA I share with others who are descended from siblings of Matilda Giles. I think I may also possibly be related to some of the earlier posters on this thread. My g grandfather was a James Stone, son of William Stone (a horse dealer like the elder Stephen Stone) and a Salome Smith (according to the birth certificate of James Stone). I have also heard that William was married to a Salome Hedges who was from a fairground family. I've not been able to find William and Salome together in the marriage or census records, or William and James together. Given the relationship between the Loveridge and the Stone family it doesn't seem far-fetched that Salome Smith could also relate to this family.

I'd be grateful for anyone that has any info on William Stone (born ~1868 in Essex) especially anything about Salome or other partners. I'd also be interested to know if anyone from the Stone or the Wisdom Smith family have done DNA testing - this could be very helpful in confirming the links.

Many thanks!

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