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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 17:45 BST (UK)  »
William Power was most definitely a widower when he married Anne McDonald in 1868.
There are two other names floating around for Williams Wife on ancestry, we have a Jane or another name beginning with a B.
I've been searching, and i couldn't come up with anything.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:34 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if this is the death of William Power Snr, from Prosperous and he died in 1878 (6 Sept 1878).  His age is given as 74 years so a birth in 1804.  So quite a bit older than Anne.  The death is reported from the town of Prosperous, love the name, which is the town that William gives as his residence on the marriage certificate. The person reporting could be Anne though at first I thought it was Alice. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1878/020503/7195139.pdf

With an age difference it is quite likely that Alice/Alicia would be Anne's step daughter. 

William Power death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1878/020503/7195139.pdf


Maria birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03349/2227902.pdf
Prosperous/McDonald

Bridget birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03212/2177877.pdf
NB residence is Curryhills & Anne Power's maiden name is given as McDonnell

William - birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03092/2133790.pdf
Residence Prosperous and maiden name is McDonald

Anthony Joseph - birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03012/2103940.pdf
Residence Prosperous and maiden name is McDonald

In looking up the births I was looking for the name of the person who registered them. Sometimes it will be the grandmother ie wifes' mother esp if this is a first child. 

The Irish did have a naming pattern and it is worth seeing if this may have been used in this family

Traditional Naming Pattern
A traditional naming pattern was often used by Irish parents until the later 19th century:

First son usually named for the father's father
Second son usually named for the mother's father
Anthony
Third son usually named for the father
Fourth son usually named for the father's eldest brother
Fifth son usually named for the mother's eldest brother
First daughter usually named for the mother's mother  ? Maria/Mary
Second daughter usually named for the father's mother
? Bridget
Third daughter usually named for the mother
Fourth daughter usually named for the mother's eldest sister
Fifth daughter usually named for the father's eldest sister.

Yeah, i found the name Bridget to be pretty consistant in the family. There was lots of sons and daughters being named after parents and grandparents.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Anne Power death in 1903. Age 63 years, suggests birth about 1840.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05663/4594824.pdf

That looks about right, she did have a son called Anthony.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:28 BST (UK)  »
I agree with Carole - difficult to advise with little information. If it is your tree, where did you find Alice?

Is this the marriage?
1868, County Kildare
William Power -widower
Anne McDonald spinster

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11449/8205828.pdf

It does say Widower on there for William, so there was a first wife before Anne then.
So Alice/Alicia does have a different mother to her siblings.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:24 BST (UK)  »
I agree with Carole - difficult to advise with little information. If it is your tree, where did you find Alice?

Is this the marriage?
1868, County Kildare
William Power -widower
Anne McDonald spinster

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1868/11449/8205828.pdf

I found Alice or Alicia a while back, took a long time to find her mother Anne McDonald, but now i'm questioning that fact whether or not Anne was her Mother or her Step-mother given the birth years between her and her siblings.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:20 BST (UK)  »
You have posted on the Beginners board & given no information about what country or county  she was born in or where the marriage took place?? 

Where did you get the birthyears from?   

You need to include all relevant info

I still consider myself a beginner, Ireland is the country and Kildare would be the county.
The other information came from ancestry hints from other people researching the same family, but they don't have her mother either. I want to check to make sure it is right before adding it to my tree.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:14 BST (UK)  »
Anne Power death in 1903. Age 63 years, suggests birth about 1840.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05663/4594824.pdf

You refer to the death of an Antony Mcdonald in 1865 aged 50.  The record  has not been imaged/uploaded to Irish Genealogy yet. If you have got it could you advise who reported the death please and the cause of death. 

A Bridget McDonald also dies in Naas in 1865

That came from another persons family tree on ancestry, you get hints from people researching the same person in your family tree. But it may or may not be true.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Sunday 08 September 24 16:07 BST (UK)  »
If this is the correct family be aware that Caragh Parish is rather difficult to research.
The original register is locked away, no access allowed.
The records on NLI are mostly a transcript which is full of errors
For example the Civil record of Alice’s marriage gives the date as 26 Feb
But on NLI the date appears to be 26 July, with Feb written over.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634418?locale=en#page/46/mode/1up
It also doesn’t give her father’s name, however if you look on FamilySearch church records the date is correct and her father’s name is recorded
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDM-GD1?cid=fs_copy
Roots Ireland is likely to have the same as Family Seach.

Yeah Alice Power marriage is Feb 26 1865, i have the certificate with that date on it.

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Family History Beginners Board / Anne McDonald (18?-1903)
« on: Friday 06 September 24 19:36 BST (UK)  »
Looking for Anne's Mother, have her father as an Anthony McDonald (1815-1865)
Have her marriage to William Power on January 19 1868, which was how i got her fathers name.
Also have 5 children, two boys, three girls;
    Alicia - (Alice) Power  1831–1907
    Maria Power  1870–1957
    Bridget Power  1872–
    William Power  1875–
    Anthony J Power  1877–

But it doesn't seem to make sense that Alice was born in the 1830s, and the others are in the 1870s!  There has to be something wrong with the information i have in my family tree, unless there was another marriage and Alice was born into the first marriage of William Power.
Anne could be his second wife.

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