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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Wednesday 15 August 18 22:58 BST (UK)  »
Just a quick comment, having read your post again, I can confirm that my husband's brother, who is 3 years older does remember that a lot iof the girls were Irish and he thinks that you are absolutely right that many girls were "shipped" off to Assisi to have their babies.

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Wednesday 15 August 18 22:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Damian (or Damo, my name is Mary by the way!)
I have great sympathy with your search and will certainly let you know if I am able to find any more I formation that may be useful.  I think that often it is a small piece of the jigsaw that begins to make sense of it all.
As I have intimated, I have a very good friend who was adopted.  She wasn't told until she was 20 and then they wouldn't tell her anything else.  Her adoptive Mother died first.  When her Father died she found a suitcase of papers including her adoption papers.  It was 1943, wartime and she was privately adopted.  The papers gave her birth Mother's name and my friend's given given name which was Megan.  I have always had an interest in family history and so started to search for her.  To cut a very long story short, I was able to glean some information but the search suddenly went dead.  I put a post on Rootschat with all the information that I knew ( and was told off by a moderator because I had used names of people who could still be Alive!)  Fair comment, I hadn't read the conditions properly.  Several months later I received a post from someone who claimed to be related and living in America and then all the pieces fell into place - just like that! 
I say all if this to Let you know that nothing is impossible and even when dealing with places that hide behind the wall of religion, they will eventually be defeated.  The Catholic Church is being exposed as being an organisation full of corruption.
As I have already said, our friends from Churt were very involved in the Catholic Church in that area until the sex scandals that have been exposed in recent years.  They might know someone who could help with information, I am hopeful that they will remember something that will assist.
In the meantime - good luck with your search, and I will Get back in touch whatever the outcome.

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Wednesday 15 August 18 07:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Damian,
Thank you for your reply.  I didn't think you were curt at all, I know from my own research for a friend who was adopted (not through a M and B home thankfully) how difficult and frustrating it can be.  I got lucky and it was Rootschat that gave me the answers in the end.
In Octiober we have some friends visiting.  They are of similar age to my husband and grew up in Churt.  They are/were staunch Catholics.  They stopped all association with the church over the recent sex scandal that have come to light involving the church.  They may be able to suggest avenues that you could take for information and/or people who you could contact.  It is worth a try, I will contact you again after their visit if there is anything worth passing on.
Keep searching, there will be something out there that will be the break through for you.  Because the scandals revolving around these faith organisations are coming out now, there will, at some point, be a full enquiry into all aspects of their actions and they won't be able to hide for ever. 

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Tuesday 14 August 18 20:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Damian,
I have just talked through houses and dates with my husband.  I misnderstood about the proximity of Cedar Cottage to Assisi. 
My husband's Father was not employed by the nuns.  They moved as a family to a cedar Cottage in 1946/7 and left in 1953.  Cedar Cottage belonged to a Mr and Mrs A Board who lived at Plaster Hill, Headley Road Churt.  My husbands Father worked on Mr. Board's farm. 
Cedar Cottage is situated 5 houses down towards Churt and when last we visited a few years ago, it still had the large Monkey Puzzle tree in the garden.  Going up the road from Cedar Cottage towards Assisi, next was a pair of semi detached cottages one was occupied by a family named Gale and the other by someone called Marshall who later went to work for the Boards as their gardener.  There were two more cottages and then the Assisi home.
My husband thinks that there may have been a house in the grounds of Assisi for a gardener or maybe they owned one of the 2 cottages immediately next to the home.  Assisi definitely didn't own Cedar Cottage during those years.
It was a small community in Hammer Lane and Assisi was part of it but they didn't intigrate, my husband says he was frightened of the nuns.  My Mothet in law used to talk to the girls and some came in for a cup,of tea, but it wasn't encouraged by the nuns.
I do hope you get some answers, I know how important it is to find out family history.  I can be a very long process and the Catholic Church haVe an awful,lot to answer for.

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Monday 06 August 18 12:09 BST (UK)  »
Don't give up hope Damian,you already have lots of information regarding your birth Mother ie that she married  etc.  If she is still alive, You may be right and she may not want to have any contact, but she might.  She may have buried you deep in her heart but I am sure that she has never forgotten you.  Times were so different then, these evil places, and they were evil in lots of cases were able to exist with very little controls, purely under the flag of religion.
You almost certainly have half brothers, sisters and wider family who won't be bound by old prejudices and who I am sure would love to know about you.
Keep searching.

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Wednesday 25 July 18 15:33 BST (UK)  »
My husband, lived as a child,  in a cottage called Cedar Cottage very near to Assissi Home.  He remembers the statue very well.  He was frightened of the nuns.  His Mother used to have some of the girls in for a cup of tea.  It would be nice to think that your Mother was one of them.  Sorry that you weren't able to meet up with your Mother but hope you had a happy childhood.

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Tuesday 17 July 18 18:13 BST (UK)  »
Ok, I understand that you feel that it would be useless. 

Have you tried using ancestry.com to find her?

Put the name, place where she lived after she was adopted, ( that is very often the area where she was born, especially if she was fostered) and an approximate birth year, you will be given up to a 10 year either way option. You will probably get several options come up.  Next search each name in "other people's trees" and see if anything comes up, these trees are particularly useful.  It takes time and there are lots of dead ends, but I have had success with several different people's trees.  People on these Geneology sites are very helpful.
Good luck, I hope you are successful in the end. :)

Moderator comment: edited for content. Please do not suggest asking for look-ups from commercial sites. Most commercial sources have strict 'Terms of Use', which forbid publishing their data elsewhere, so asking for such look-ups is also asking people to ignore the 'Terms of Use'.

http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting_guide.php

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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Tuesday 17 July 18 15:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I guess that you were privately fostered. This does make it difficult but maybe not impossible.  Have you any idea where your Mother lived?  I think it is possible that she was young, maybe 16 - 20 maybe, so an approximate date of birth And where she may have lived could  find an answer. 
My friend's search seemed completely impossible because after we found a person that matched what we thought we knew, she went off to America post war and disappeared.  We kept trying and, without going into a long explanation at this point, we got lucky!
She was still alive, 93 and living in Florida!  After a lot of soul searching, because she felt that it might upset the old lady too much, my friend decided that she had to try to make contact which she did and although her Mother died soon afterwards, they did speak and she was put touch with half brothers and sisters. 
If you would like, you could message me the details you already know and I will see if I can get any further for you.
Sadly you won't be able to get any information from the Assissi Home because it was sold off many years ago and is now exclusive housing. 
My husband grew up in the house next door to the home and remembers the girls going by on their way to the village.  His Mother used to talk to them and give them cups of tea.  He says that he was always frightened to go anywhere near it as a small child because the nuns were so severe,  but did deliver prescriptions from the local Chemist there when he was older (imagine that happening now!).  The property belonged to the Catholic Church so I think that they must have records somewhere.  It might be worth writing to them although they haven't had a good reputation for releasing these records, you might be lucky if you persist.  It is worth a try.



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Surrey / Re: Assisi Mother & Baby Homes
« on: Tuesday 17 July 18 13:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
you should be able to apply for your adoption records and they would say your birth Mother's name.  My friend applied for hers and, after some counselling, which apparently has to happen before they release the records, we were able to trace her Mother through a genealogical social media site
If you would like more advice as to where to search after you hVe been given her name, then I will talk to your further through this site, as to how we went about tracing her. :)

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