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Ayrshire / Re: Photographs by John Humphrey of King Street, Kilmarnock 1860-1889
« on: Sunday 16 April 17 05:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Donald,
Well you’ve really got my brain buzzing with your information.
My dating is obviously all wonky.  I had assumed that tintypes, pretty rare in Scotland, were a survival of the past that were quickly and systematically replaced by cartes de visite.  I knew that the technique survived into the early 20th Century, but on a pretty small scale, and particularly in the USA, but your info about your relative’s date of birth clearly shows that John Humphrey was dabbling in it late in his career; he died in March 1889. I had also assumed that they predated his partnership with James Paton (1862-57), but evidently they came after that period.  I need to dig around to see how common that was in Scotland at the time.
In a way, it figures, since the mounting cards for these tintypes seem so crisp and colourful that it’s hard to imagine them being issued in the late ’50s and early ’60s.
It’s certainly possible that your relatives had a big family event or somesuch which brought them all to East Ayrshire, but, since tintype photography was very mobile, and often performed by itinerant photographers away from any fixed studio – at fairs or special sidewalk sessions -  it may be that John Humphrey was travelling on business in Lanarkshire at the time, rather than the other way around.
Anyway, I’ll await the appearance of your blog with great interest.  Thanks so much for your response.
John Humphrey (Toronto)

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Ayrshire / Re: Photographs by John Humphrey of King Street, Kilmarnock 1860-1889
« on: Saturday 15 April 17 20:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dunedinguy,
I find this very very interesting. I have a couple of similar-style tin-types by my great grandfather, but this is the only one that has his name printed on the front . On one of them I have has his name rather crudely hand-stamped on the back  “John Humphrey, photographer, Kilmarnock” – over the patch holding the tin-type to the card; the other has no identifier at all, but it came through the family, so I know it’s his.

I would date your tintype to the very early 1860s, perhaps very late 1850’s, but a bit later than those I’ve seen already, since it has the printed cardstock. It’s certainly before 1862, anyway, since that’s when he went into partnership with James Paton.

BTW, the spelling is interesting. I’ve not seen any examples of “Humphry” on his cards before, although I do have some later ones of “Humphreys”. Spelling irregularities were not uncommon in official documents up until about this time.

I wonder if you’re able to post here (or send me) a scan of the back of this card, and front & back of the other “John Humphry” tintypes that you have? And of the group CDV you have.  This sounds like a very interesting group of pictures – how did you come across them? Do you collect much of his output?

I will attach the front & back images of the tin-type I mentioned

Best regards,
John Humphrey (Toronto, Canada)

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