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Are you certain you have the correct John Lonsdale?  The name John Lonsdale is very common and provides many records through to quite recently (1950's), so you need to be very sure of your dates and place of birth in order to narrow the search down.  It would also help if you can connect them without doubt to relatives you know for a fact are your ancestors.  If your family has said he was born in Manchester, and this is a fact they are certain of, then that is the John Lonsdale you should be following.  If you find John Lonsdales with conflicting birth dates/birth places, then they are likely not the person you are looking for.  You have to careful not to merge different families into one tree.  But if your family is guessing at his birthplace and date then without verifiable corroborating evidence your search will lead you down many paths, many will be wrong. 

Within the time frame you mentioned, I have found 3 census records in 1911, showing 3 different John Lonsdales, 3 different birth dates/birthplaces/residence, but all having a wife named Catherine.  Quite a coincidence to be sure.  One of them is born in Ireland c. 1852, the other two are in England. One of those is Manchester, Lancashire, born c. 1858, the other born c. 1877 in Liverpool.  You would have to look at the census records and see whether the names of any children are your relatives.  There was also a strong tradition of naming children after themselves or their parents and siblings, so again it can muddy the waters. 

Looking further into their marriage records, the Catherines all have a different maiden name.

Confusing as all heck, isn't it?     Start with what you know and work back from there.  Pay close attention to dates and places so you don't find yourself running down the wrong path. Good luck!

I don't know whether you are still searching, but I have the following information compiled from
The 1891, 1901 and 1911 Census records which shows Sarah Jane (née Coppick) & Walter Thomas Howell living in Halifax, Yorkshire.  Their children are: 

 

  - Harold (circa 1892),
  - Norman (c. 1893)
  - Clara (c. 1895)
  - Percy (c. 1900)
  - Reginald (c. 1903)
  - Ethel (c. 1905)
  - Robert (c. 1908)
  - Florence (c. 1909).   

Without a 1921 census, I don't know whether any more children were born after 1909.  Sarah Howell, née Coppick is my first cousin 3x removed, her father being my 3rd great uncle.  I haven't yet researched beyond this level for this branch of my family tree.

Do you still have the contact information for Kate Wilson?  I did have an email address for her, but it appears to have been closed, as my email was undeliverable.  I know we are not to post email addresses here, so I'm hoping there is a way you can send me a private message.  I have just joined the site and am not familiar with how this works yet.

There are 2 Moses Coppicks in the family tree.  Moses, born circa 1836 was my 3rd great uncle.  Moses born circa 1860 is my Great Great Grandfather.  The mug could have belonged to either one of them.

I recently learned of the existence of this mug and am also interested in a photograph and whether there is any further information on it, or who I may contact for information.  Thanking you in advance for any help you can give.

-Maggie