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Cavan / Re: "STRATFORD" family. Cavan.Co.Cavan.Ireland.
« on: Monday 18 March 19 03:43 GMT (UK)  »
One of Sidney Welsh's brothers was Dr. Henry Welsh I, died May 7, 1794. I do not have a birth date. They are the chidren of John Welsh II baptised 1707 St. Catherine Church, Dublin, Ireland adn died 1766 Killyfargy, Co. Monaghan, Ireland and Anne Pilkington b. abt 1703-08 Tore, Westmeath, Ireland. You should be able to find more of each side of their trees on Ancestry. The Pilkington's were prominent in Lancashire, England as well as you will find them in Ireland . (Anne's father ws Abraham Pilkington, Esq. married to Elizabeth West. ) I am descended from Dr. Henry Welsh who's family eventually is in Lancashire, England. I hope this will give you more insight into this family.
Cheryl

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Update.....In the time that has passed since I first posted and recieved from all of you the information that has ultimately filled in the missing holes of our family history, I have been in touch with cousins in both England and Australia. If not for the replies recieved here I would still be in the dark. So again I want to thank everyone here who so graciously jumped in to help me!

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Update....I received the birth record for William H. Welsh from the GRO. He was born May 24, 1888. Parents were as listed here. He was born in Chorlton, Manchester, England. Correction to where he last lived, that should have been 5 Hatherly St, Liverpool (not Fatherly St. as was done by auto-correct).

Garstonite...wondering if the Welsh family that you know are related to Dr. William H. Welsh born in the very early 1800's in this same area. I believe that there is a son or grandson of his that also became a doctor.




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Garstonite....Florence Hilda Welsh was born 1896. If she had children, she would no longer be going by her maiden name. So, I don't know if they are related? But I would certainly like to find out.

I have also determined that the birth record for William Henry Welsh with the birth mother: Del Lungo is the one born in Chorleton, not Toxteth (that I mentioned earlier with parents William and Mary).

On a passenger list from the SS Shonga sailing on July 27, 1918 William H. Welsh states that his date of birth is May 24, 1884 in Manchester, England. Nationality: English, Nationality of father: English. Last lived at 5 Fatherly St., Liverpool. I believe that birth year to be incorrect, as he states it as 1887 on his ID card. I have sent for this birth certificate from GRO.

Thanks to all for keeping up with this! It is a work in progress :)

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Seaweed......Thank you for the heads up about William's medal. I actually just found that a few days ago as I decided to get a one month's subscription to FindMyPast.com and it was on there. It was not on Ancestry.
Thank you for the details about how to look for more information, I would not have known that. I did print out the Merchant Seaman Identity card with his picture on it. He gives his birth date as May 24, 1887 on that. The birth record that we've identified for him is for William Henry Welsh, born Chorlton in 1888. I surmise that maybe he needed to fudge his DOB to get into the Merchant Marine. Not sure why he would change the month and year. It does indicate that his mother's maiden name is Del Lungs (s/b Lungo), so that would be correct for him.
I will be sending for his birth record. I did find what I believe is his baptismal in the Church of England in Toxteth at St. Thomas, and shows an April 23, 1888 birth date but has his parents as William and Mary, so I'm not sure that's him.
Thank you for your help!

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Welsh family here in Garston ,Liverpool - ask your dad was there any of his relatives in Garston ? - all in there 70's now but the 4 siblings are all healthy and I see them regularly  :)
Garstonite....are you related to the Welsh family descended from Cherubina Antonietta Maria Del Lungo and Edmund/Edward Welsh? My father was 82 when he passed away in 1998. Can you either post or PM me names or a family tree? I know nothing about the family and would love to!
Thank you for posting.
Cheryl

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I have DNA matches with people in Australia and couldn't figure out why. I think this explains it. One particular one is 2nd to 4th cousin. I am off to find out some of my DNA matches using some of these surnames.
You are the BEST! Thank you.
If I need some guidance again, I'll be sure to check back. I have lots of follow up to do.

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BINGO!!!!!!!! You have found him/them!! Or at least I think you have.
I can't thank you enough. My father went through his whole life not knowing any of this and I've been searching for about 40 years or more.
I had taken a break to make dinner and just got back on. Must have missed a few of your posts. I checked out the family tree of Antoniette's on Ancestry and I know that I match someone's family tree posted on FamilyTree DNA with the names I saw on hers, as I did FamilyTreeDNA testing as I couldn't seem to get anywhere and knew so little. I have to print everything out and make sense of this. My father had two pictures, very grainy, of his father. I can't wait to get on to see if that's him! Everyone always says I look Italian, even when I went to Italy.
I wanted to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone here who has jumped in to help me. I can't thank you enough.

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Thank you so much avm228!! I was able to access it via your link. It is not coming up on any searches on the US site. Are you in the UK? I was very excited to see it.  From what I can see he is age 4, which matches. Yes, I would also say he was baptised twice. At the time she lived in Flushing, Queens, NY and she was Mabel Welsh on the 1920 Census taken in January 1920.

Also, thank you for the Merchant Seaman Identity Certificate, 1918!!
That is him. I actually just saw another ship register for him and it had his DOB as 24 May, 1884.  I will be sending for his birth certificate(s); I may have to order a few as they seem to only have 3 month identifiers in addition to the name.

You have been a huge help in breaking through this wall. If you can think of anything else I can be pursuing, can you let me know? Many thanks!

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