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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Tuesday 02 April 19 20:17 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
Is there anything new on this enquiry? re Mary Baronville "She was my granny. I got her church marriage cert", is the cert for her marriage to Thomas Martin (which is online) or to Thomas Peacocke which can't be found on published records?
 I have never been able to find any information regarding the Baronvill(e) family. The phone number I had for Brendan Cleere (from his phonecall some years ago) is invalid and I haven't been able to make contact.  I'd really like to finalise this matter.
Thanks
Anne

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England / Re: George Saunders the Whitesmith
« on: Thursday 08 November 18 14:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Pamela Kate Aggis(s) was my grandmothers sister. She married Frederick SAUNDERS (I think a Policeman). I have a lot of research done in the Aggiss family Kersey/Hadleigh. When she died she was living on Hadleigh Road Ipswich. If you’re still actively researching, please get in touch. Thx Anne
I am looking for information regarding George Saunders who married Harriet Goss; she was 28 in 1866, in Hythe in the Parish of Fawley Hampshire
He was 20 and a whitesmith as was his father George as named on marriage certificate.
Her Brother Henry Goss and a Charlotte Curtis were witnesses.


I have birth, marriage and death certificates for Harriet Goss also details of her parents and siblings. I have her on census in Exeter, Honiton, Southampton, then in Kersey Suffolk where she died in 1903. Unfortunately he was never with his wife and sons on the census of 1871 as Harriet is staying with Brother Henry and Emma his wife, the enumerator has also spelt Harriet’s name as Sanders but am positive this is my Harriet

They had two sons as far as I can check, Thomas George Saunders born on 1 Apr 1867 in Kingsfield Road, Southampton and it appears by checking census details was brought up by his Goss grandparents, I think he died in 1885 in Tonbridge when he was 18.

Frederick William Saunders was born in 17 June 1870 in Southampton, baptised in Aldershot September 1875, this is documented. He was my grandfather who married Pamela Kate Aggis in 1905; their children were Joseph, Sidney and Georgina, my mother.

Harriet Saunders nee Goss then at some point between 1870 and 1875 became a widow as she then married James Hazell on the Isle of Wight in March 1875. I have the wedding certificate which also indicates James Hazell address as Fort Victoria Yarmouth and that she was a widow.

I have the Census details for Harriet for 1841-51-61-81- 1901she died 1903
I have the Census details for James for 1851, 1881 and 1891 he died 1892 and is show as a Light Infantry soldier on his death cert.

Frederick must have been baptised after George Saunders death, there is no doubt on the certificates.

I am trying to find out when my Great Grandfather George Saunders died and any census information showing both Georges, I have trawled through the indices without success so far. The Census detail of 1861 in the Portsea area showing a George as 15 years old but cannot trace the family listed in the 1851 or 1861 census, I cannot find a conclusive birth or death certificate for him.
Any help and ideas in finding out about him would be appreciated.
Thanks
Terry

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Saturday 15 April 17 11:45 BST (UK)  »
Brendan Cleere raised issue re Thomas George Peacocke having 2 sons some years ago. Then (maybe his son) recently raised same issue. It's quite serious to claim that my grand uncle had 2 children "outside" marriage and his family didn't know. If it's not true a lot of time has been wasted. Who were the 2 children and how are they connected to Brendan Cleere? There has been no reply from him or person who raised query for him. I would have expected courtesy of reply. Thanks..

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Thursday 13 April 17 20:44 BST (UK)  »
I did buy as I thought it would have missing information!  not to worry - it's great to have all the information free as you would pay for it elsewhere...
It's a pity the Cleere end of query didn't give more information as twice it's being raised and my extended family are really interested that there are members we never heard of..
Thanks again for all your time
Cheers
Anne

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 22:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi again
Thanks, I see that now in relation to records / timeframes.  I already got a death certificate for Marie Teresa Martin as I thought it would have more information than the registry - it cost me €42.50 for the very basic data (no address, age etc). When I queried it I was told to check with the Coroner - I thought they'd do that when I paid for it!
I don't know if there's any point in paying for Birth Cert for Marie Teresa as I don't think it will give any further detail on Mary Theresa Baronvill/Martin.  There doesn't seem to be any accessible information with regard to where she was born and it is possibly a French or Belgian family name.
If you can find anything further on her it would be great!
cheers
Anne

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 21:13 BST (UK)  »

HI
Sorry to bother you but i don't see attached from UK Ancestry on the Ireland records.  Maybe this birth was the Marie Teresa Martin whose death i had found for 1964 registered by Dr Stephens hospital..
Thanks again
Anne

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Wednesday 12 April 17 20:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I think you're right.  The death i was looking at was for a Marie Teresa Martin (D. 25.6.1964) and it should be Mary.  The Thomas Martin at address in Clanbrassil street was a tailor as Thomas Martin who married Mary Teresa Ivy Baronvill.
Baronvill is an unusual name and i've looked for it but can't find anything relevant.  It is intriguing but I wonder is it a wild goose chase as Brendan or his friend never pursued it and I think I wasted time and effort as maybe you have.
Thanks again
cheers
Anne

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Monday 10 April 17 19:41 BST (UK)  »
HI,
That information in Thoms refers to Colonel TG Peacocke who was my father's uncle.  His wife was Zoe and they had no children in so far as our family was aware. I met my cousins recently and they never heard he had children / he was still married to Zoe when he died in 1939.  She was his beneficiary in his will and she died in 1942.
 I tried to see further information regarding Marie Theresa Martin's death in Dublin - her death cert doesn't give anything other than that she died from Natural Causes (even though only she died at quite an early age in 1964) / registered in Dr Stevens hospital / no other information.  I asked the Registry to check further but heard nothing back.  I've received no reply from the Cleere end of original query so no progress...

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Baronville
« on: Thursday 23 February 17 00:19 GMT (UK)  »
I think she was born in Hong Kong but her family moved to London - can't recall family name but I'm sure it wasn't Baronville.  He qualified as a Veterinary surgeon in Edinburgh and served as a Veterinary Officer in the British Army  in India. I don't know too much about their life together.  He retired and moved back to Ireland and was involved in the Aga Khan setting up Stud Farm in Kildare.  It is possible he had a relationship with someone other than Zoe.


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