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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Friday 28 March 25 22:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Osprey. In that case, I would imagine he is likely buried in St Ive...

I still have 3 more children of William to look into. There might be a few more clues to be found there.

Two daughters had moved to St Ive for mine-related work. They later moved to Lancashire. It will be interesting to see what the others did.

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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Thursday 27 March 25 18:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Osprey. This is the one I have been looking at. I think it is the best match...

The 1871 census seems to show him in St Ive (not to be confused with Ives) with the family of a daughter.

I don't know if he was buried there. That's another challenge!

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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Wednesday 26 March 25 22:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Millie. That looks to be the right one. FindMyPast had the image so it's good to confirm the fathers as Francis and William. I shall need to see whether they were related.

Do you think it's fair to assume that the William Hambly in the 1871 census in St Ive is the William I am after? Having taken another look at the census image I even noticed another younger William Hambly in the neighboring dwelling also from Lansellos! 

In 1881, Francis and Elizabeth were living in Great Marsden, Nelson, a route taken by elder sister Rebecca and her daughters. I've yet to identify the reason for this move - I believe the Cornish copper mines were closing by that time. Possibly it was for work in the mills but it seems a long way to move for work...


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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Wednesday 26 March 25 09:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Millie. I have a bit more digging to do here. I do know from a marriage certificate for Mary Jane Brock marrying John Burn that her father William was deceased by 1877. William's wife Jane died in 1861 and was described as the wife of William Hambly rather than widow so there is a probably a 16 year gap should it be a matter of trawling through registered deaths...

I will try to find a marriage certificate for the two Hamblys - Francis and Elizabeth. A lot of records suggest he was from Lansellos and Polperro but I cannot see a record of a baptism there in 1822. There is one in nearby St Germans with a father Francis. More to go at...

In 1861 Francis is a Royal Marine in East Stonehouse. In 1881, at Pensilva, he is a pensioner - so probably completed his 21 years in the Royal Marines. Normally a place of birth is recorded in the service records.


Elizabeth Hambly is not really a main focus in my research but these siblings are often a source of additional background to the wider family. It's all very interesting!

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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Tuesday 25 March 25 21:09 GMT (UK)  »
I've been looking for William Hambly b1894, husband of Jane Hambly... William Hambly looks to have been a fairly common name around Liskeard.

I found a Free BMD entry for a William Hambly who died in Pensilva, St Ive in 1874 aged 81 which would be a good match. Pensilva is the town where daughter Rebecca and family were in the 1861 and 1871 census. It appears that there was a huge copper mine at nearby Caradon Hill which many labourers moved to the area for.

Interestingly there is a William Hambly in the 1871 census in Pensilva and from Lansallos. I strongly suspect it is the right William but the head of the household is a Francis Hambly - William did not have a son called Francis... He did have a daughter called Elizabeth and I wonder whether Francis's wife was William's daughter. There is some rather compelling but incomplete information in a FamilySearch tree which makes me wonder. Francis later died in Lancashire in the same village that Rebecca Hambly/Stephens was in the 1881 census (and later died there).

It's the only explanation I can come up with so far! Any help on this gratefully received.

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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Thursday 20 March 25 22:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Millie. That's very  helpful - I thought Redruth looked a bit out of the way!


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Cornwall / Re: HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Thursday 20 March 25 09:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Osprey. It is very helpful to know that the Jane/Jenifird entries are not different people. I couldn't see how the other information fitted if they were different. Thanks!

It was very useful to see Jane's burial record. It's odd that my search had not found that. Indeed the only record of death registered for a Jane Hambly in Cornwall in 1861 was in Redruth... Would that be the correct one before I order the death certificate?

You have found out a lot about Rebecca's whereabouts. I shall have to check this out in more detail and update my notes. I'll no doubt be back to track down more information.

Thank you once again!

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Cornwall / HAMBLY family from Lansallos
« on: Wednesday 19 March 25 18:40 GMT (UK)  »
I'm investigating the HAMBLY family from Lansallos in Cornwall. My GG grandmother, Mary Jane Hambly was born there in 1825. The situation is a little complicated in that there were a few other Hamblys knocking around at that time and I would appreciate some help in knowing I am on the right track. Mary Jane Hambly has featured in another thread following her movements in Devonport later on but it is her family back in Cornwall that I am trying to get a better understanding of.

The first challenge is fundamental - I'm trying to get the right parents... There is a William and Jane Hambly in Lansallos who have a daughter Rebecca in 1819. Then a William and Jenifird Hambly who have a son William in 1823, a daughter Mary Jane in 1825. Later a William and Jane Hambly who have three children Elizabeth 1829, Susannah 1832 and John 1835. I'm hoping they are all the same family but it's hard to be certain...

There was a William Hambly b1895 who married Jane Galsworthy b1893 in the neighbouring Duloe parish in 1815. A daughter Jane was born in that parish in 1816. There were no further entries for William and Jane Hambly in that parish. There were other Hamblys around to sow confusion mind you...

In the 1841 census, William and Jane Hambly were home with Susannah and John. That was not too helpful. Looking around the area, I found a Rebecca (20) Mary Hambly (15) working on a farm in St Germans (run by two Palmers). I've assumed that these are connected to the family I am looking at. Elsewhere in 1841, there is another farm (also run by younger Palmer - possibly a son?) a neighbouring parish with an Elizabeth Hambly aged 10. Of note there is a chap called William Stephens on that entry at the farm...

Jumping ahead to 1851 around the St Germans area, there is a William Stephens with a wife Rebecca from Lansallos who I suspect is from the Hambly family I am looking at. They have two children (6,4). I have not been able to find a marriage for William and Rebecca - probably between 1841 and 1845... There is also a Jane Hambly from Lansallos on the same entry which really does suggest it is the Rebecca and Jane I am looking for.

Unfortunately, I have not had much tracking them down after that... I'm wondering if this all sounds plausible or I am falling into a convenient trap set by coincidence. I feel that if I could find the marriage between Rebecca and William that might help to confirm a few details.       

Thank you in advance for any guidance.


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Devon / Re: Brock family missing a few details
« on: Monday 17 March 25 07:12 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Debra.

Not the outcome I was looking for but it doesn't always work out! I was unaware there were other Wall family members in Plymouth. I've not investigated the families of the spouses yet.

The search goes on!

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