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Cambridgeshire / Re: Thomas and Elizabeth SYKES
« on: Wednesday 22 February 17 14:53 GMT (UK) »
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Cambridgeshire / Re: Thomas and Elizabeth SYKES
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 16:18 GMT (UK) »
Maddys52:
By the way, are you related to the Rt. Rev. Stephen Whitefield Sykes? He was at Ely, and died in 2014.
tdsykes
By the way, are you related to the Rt. Rev. Stephen Whitefield Sykes? He was at Ely, and died in 2014.
tdsykes
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Cambridgeshire / Re: Thomas and Elizabeth SYKES
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Maddys52:
This is very helpful. There has been much disarray in the Public Trees on Ancestry.com about the parentage of James and George. I am so pleased to have found the Witcham, Ely, Cambridgeshire connection, helpfully confirmed by you. A five-year mystery is solved.
Funny co-incidence: James' grandson, my GG, married a BARKER in the early 1900s. But these Barkers (James Barker, grandson of a Lord Mayor of London) came over in 1636, so any connection to the Barker you mention is very, very distant. But your comment made me wonder about a pre-existing connection -- for just a moment.
As you probably know, many Sykeses in the U.S. trace back to 17th century crossings that landed either in Massachusetts or Virginia. Many Sykeses, especially in the south, have ancestors who were slaves and are black. George was drafted to fight in the Civil War for the Union.
George and James died in Janesville, Wisconsin, each living long lives. George and Jane had four children, and James and Elizabeth had five or six. They seemingly did quite well here. (Janesville is where the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Paul Ryan, is from. He says his family goes back five generations there; so does mine, so the families probably knew each other.) My GG, James's grandson, was a Wisconsin state legislator for 20 years. George had a son, Herbert, who became a MD or pharmacist, and did very well in corporate America. One died of malaria while building the Panama Canal. Dora Sykes graduated from the University of Wisconsin in the early 1900s -- very unusual for a woman.
Quite fascinating.
My branch moved away from Janesville in 1910, so we have lost touch with that family. Some moved to the American west in the latter part of the 1800s.
Again, thanks.
tdsykes
This is very helpful. There has been much disarray in the Public Trees on Ancestry.com about the parentage of James and George. I am so pleased to have found the Witcham, Ely, Cambridgeshire connection, helpfully confirmed by you. A five-year mystery is solved.
Funny co-incidence: James' grandson, my GG, married a BARKER in the early 1900s. But these Barkers (James Barker, grandson of a Lord Mayor of London) came over in 1636, so any connection to the Barker you mention is very, very distant. But your comment made me wonder about a pre-existing connection -- for just a moment.
As you probably know, many Sykeses in the U.S. trace back to 17th century crossings that landed either in Massachusetts or Virginia. Many Sykeses, especially in the south, have ancestors who were slaves and are black. George was drafted to fight in the Civil War for the Union.
George and James died in Janesville, Wisconsin, each living long lives. George and Jane had four children, and James and Elizabeth had five or six. They seemingly did quite well here. (Janesville is where the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Paul Ryan, is from. He says his family goes back five generations there; so does mine, so the families probably knew each other.) My GG, James's grandson, was a Wisconsin state legislator for 20 years. George had a son, Herbert, who became a MD or pharmacist, and did very well in corporate America. One died of malaria while building the Panama Canal. Dora Sykes graduated from the University of Wisconsin in the early 1900s -- very unusual for a woman.
Quite fascinating.
My branch moved away from Janesville in 1910, so we have lost touch with that family. Some moved to the American west in the latter part of the 1800s.
Again, thanks.
tdsykes
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Cambridgeshire / Re: Thomas and Elizabeth SYKES
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 02:49 GMT (UK) »
Maddy52:
Thanks for the prompt response.
Here's what I knew before doing my recent online research:
George Sykes b. 1828 and Jane came to Janesville, Wisconsin, USA in 1854, on the Emerald Isle. They brought little Emma with them.
Brother James Sykes b. 1825 and Elizabeth (Poole) came to the same place perhaps a year or two later. They brought little Rebecca with them. James named sons Henry William b. 1859 and John b. 1856.
Armed with the Cambridgeshire clue (I had thought the Sykeses were probably from Yorkshire), I learned that George and Jane were married at Ely on October 20, 1852. A James Sykes and Elizabeth Poole were married at Ely in 1849.
Intriguing fact: One son of James, Harvey, b. 1874, has the middle name Moore. Might that be a clue to a surname of Ann/Elizabeth, married to Thomas? Or to the surname of the mother of Elizabeth Poole, whose parents appear to be Issac and Mary (?) Poole of Witcham.
Lots of Sykeses and Pooles around Witcham, even today.
I hope this helps. Thanks for getting back to me.
Thanks for the prompt response.
Here's what I knew before doing my recent online research:
George Sykes b. 1828 and Jane came to Janesville, Wisconsin, USA in 1854, on the Emerald Isle. They brought little Emma with them.
Brother James Sykes b. 1825 and Elizabeth (Poole) came to the same place perhaps a year or two later. They brought little Rebecca with them. James named sons Henry William b. 1859 and John b. 1856.
Armed with the Cambridgeshire clue (I had thought the Sykeses were probably from Yorkshire), I learned that George and Jane were married at Ely on October 20, 1852. A James Sykes and Elizabeth Poole were married at Ely in 1849.
Intriguing fact: One son of James, Harvey, b. 1874, has the middle name Moore. Might that be a clue to a surname of Ann/Elizabeth, married to Thomas? Or to the surname of the mother of Elizabeth Poole, whose parents appear to be Issac and Mary (?) Poole of Witcham.
Lots of Sykeses and Pooles around Witcham, even today.
I hope this helps. Thanks for getting back to me.
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Cambridgeshire / Re: Thomas and Elizabeth SYKES
« on: Monday 20 February 17 16:06 GMT (UK) »
This is a question for Maddy52.
My ancestor, in the U.S., is James Sykes b. 1825, who has a brother, George Sykes, b. 1828. I believe, based on online research, that they were born near Witcham, in Cambridgeshire. Certainly George was married in Oct. 10, 1852 in Ely, Cambridgeshire, to Jane, presumably Gadsby.
I read your email of June 4, 2015 with interest. I am trying to identify the parents of James and George, and my own online research has suggested Thomas Sykes and Ann. Then I came across your email.
The baptismal years for James and George coincide with those mentioned in your email.
A further coincidence is that James, who married Elizabeth Poole before coming to the U.S., had sons named William, Henry, and John. There was a marriage with those names in Ely in 1849.
Question: Is anything you know about James b. 1825 and George b. 1828 inconsistent with the known fact that they came to the U.S. in the 1850s?
If not, it appears that the Thomas and the Ann you have identified might be their parents.
Thanks.
My ancestor, in the U.S., is James Sykes b. 1825, who has a brother, George Sykes, b. 1828. I believe, based on online research, that they were born near Witcham, in Cambridgeshire. Certainly George was married in Oct. 10, 1852 in Ely, Cambridgeshire, to Jane, presumably Gadsby.
I read your email of June 4, 2015 with interest. I am trying to identify the parents of James and George, and my own online research has suggested Thomas Sykes and Ann. Then I came across your email.
The baptismal years for James and George coincide with those mentioned in your email.
A further coincidence is that James, who married Elizabeth Poole before coming to the U.S., had sons named William, Henry, and John. There was a marriage with those names in Ely in 1849.
Question: Is anything you know about James b. 1825 and George b. 1828 inconsistent with the known fact that they came to the U.S. in the 1850s?
If not, it appears that the Thomas and the Ann you have identified might be their parents.
Thanks.
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