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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Monday 06 February 17 19:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hello paulawilder1,

I thought that I would post on this thread as I lived in Broughton, by Bretton, for many years. I know Bretton well and recall that Hope's Place was a farm there. Even today, Bretton is a tiny hamlet but has been badly altered by commercial building in later years.

I found these references to Hope's Place online:

Thank you for this Jo, I will have a look. Samuel Jones is my OH gggrandfather

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Monday 06 February 17 19:20 GMT (UK)  »
JillRose your site is amazing, what a job you've done, thank you!

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Sunday 29 January 17 21:28 GMT (UK)  »
That's amazing! I could tell the cousin in Vancouver i.e. Lou's grandson, but he doesn't seem interested after saying he was previously?! Have sent him family history stuff years ago, but never got any kind of response, so didn't bother again. He is a Mormon and I thought they were interested in that sort of thing and it also seems a shame when he is a horse vet  :(

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Thursday 26 January 17 20:49 GMT (UK)  »
Amazing you know about Lou Bamber, she seems to have been a character, a strong woman. S thinks he met her when he was a child. We also have a photo of her. S is amazed about the connection! I am going to endeavour to do some collating this weekend. We realised what we had always called 'the cemetery in Smithdown Road' is called Toxteth Park Cemetery.Have you actually been there? Have you been to Liverpool, Cheshire and/or N Wales? I would be interested in anything you have including the newspaper articles described the horrible death of Richard Higginson in 1860.
Congratulations on the wedded bliss!

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Tuesday 24 January 17 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Paula, you know so much more than me! S has a lot of rellies that were born and/or lived in Toxteth Park. I have not had time to collate anything regarding what I know yet. So where are you in France (and why?)? We've been to France a lot over the years. We have only seen S's immediate family's headstone (I have a photo) we shall have to get over to Liverpool! I must tell him I've found a cousin (he's just gone to bed - he'll be reading). How fascinating to know how we all connect. Lillian sounds quite something! We have a photo of Kitty/Kate Higginson - there's also some other photos, which I could find. I just thought, we have cousins in Vancouver, descended from Richard Jones. He had a daughter called Louisa who emigrated to Canada in the 30s, she married a Thomas Bamber from Lancashire, they had Irene and she had Neil who's now 60 something and a retired vet in BC. Must go to bed!

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Saturday 14 January 17 19:44 GMT (UK)  »
Very pleased to get your reply. I am now sure, after seeing your evidence in the thread, Samuel Jones and both Richard Higginsons are the same as in our tree. It confirmed what I'd thought. I am the researcher in the family, my husband Stephen is interested, but he is not in the best of health and is not the best researcher! So it goes through me. I like doing it, but it's the time I lack. We have latterly focussed, when we've had the time, on his surname which is from Germany and Denmark. I was looking back at the contents of the family research box files as my daughter wanted ideas of family names (she's expecting another baby), so that set me off! Hope the following ancestor 'list' helps: Samuel Jones> Richard > William Alexander>Olive (Steve's mother)>Stephen Arthur (my husband). Our Richard Jones (horsekeeper) married Kitty/Kate Higginson (father Richard Higginson). So how do you fit in and whereabouts are you - in the US I presume (we have been to the US and Canada a number of times)? Steve was born in St Asaph, Wales and brought up in Liverpool from age 3. We live in Yorkshire. Steve has cousins from his father's side around the St Asaph area, we visit them and we will now be able to go to see them via the farm, now we know for sure where the Higginson/Jones were!
I firstly need to read all the threads properly and collate our evidence and attach copies to you (if helpful), however my grandson is staying so no time really and should really be doing my tax return this week :( I will also be busy tomorrow, so don't hold your breath! I would love access to your tree, that would be great, but at the moment I don't have the paid membership, I stopped when I wasn't getting time to use it. So I may pay a couple months if I need to?
Thanks and TTFN

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Flintshire / Re: Higginsons of Hopes Place, Bretton, Hawarden
« on: Friday 13 January 17 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I have just happened upon this thread whilst looking for Hopes Farm. I am in the UK and my husband has Richard Higginson as a great great great grandfather and Samuel Jones as a great great grandfather. I have a copy of the 1851 census and your research makes things fall into place. We will have to call in and look at the farm on the way to see rellies in Denbighshire. I am very grateful to see this as I do not get much time to do family research. It is late here so I will come back and have a more detailed look at the thread. Thanks

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