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Family History Beginners Board / Asylums and Workhouses
« on: Sunday 05 February 17 12:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

Could anyone tell me whether asylums and workhouses were included in census returns? I assume that they were but can't find any records in Ancestry or The Genealogist - probably because I'm not searching correctly!

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Pete

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Monday 30 January 17 16:07 GMT (UK)  »
Converted it to pdf if anyone is interested in having a look

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Monday 30 January 17 15:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that Gail.

It seems that the Hefford children, Alfred, Martha and Charles disappear off the face of the earth after the 1871 census so I suppose it's possible that they all changed their name to Love.

That would give me the Martha Love/William Warsop marriage, a link to the Alfred Love/Sarah Scott marriage at which Martha is a witness, and the fact that there is a Charles Love on the 1881 census with the same age that Charles Hefford would be but no Charles Hefford.

But why do they change their name when their mother (?) Mary is still alive, and before Mary Ann Love appears in 1881?

Interestingly Mary Ann Love appears to be an "inmate" and I do know that the County Asylum was virtually next door to Front Row, the address on the 1881 census.

Good job it's demolished. I think I'm rapidly heading there!

I have a sort of mind map/flow chart on excel but it's not allowing me to attach it. Shame.

Thanks again for the article.

Pete

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Sunday 29 January 17 14:10 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Claire,

It seems to me that it wouldn't be that unusual to find an ancestor missing from a particular set of records.

Would I be right in thinking that death records are the most reliable? I would imagine that everyone had to obtain a death certificate before a body could be buried.

Or was that not the case either?

Pete

PS. Can I add how friendly and patient everyone has been. This has certainly not been the case on another forum to which I've posed questions. Definitely a "pat on the head and don't be silly" vibe on there!

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Saturday 28 January 17 10:31 GMT (UK)  »
Wow! Thanks everone for all of this very interesting information. You must have spent hours researching on my behalf!

I think I'm now going to "mind-map" it all to see try to get it straight in my mind, and to see if other connections suggest themselves.

Thank you again for your efforts. Not only do I have loads more information, but being a beginner you've shown me research ideas which will no doubt be very useful in future.

Dare I say it ..... if you have any more ideas - keep them coming!

Pete

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Friday 27 January 17 16:04 GMT (UK)  »
That's really interesting!

I can't keep up! I've got to go and pick up my granddaughter now. I expect you to have completed the whole family tree before I get back!!!!

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Friday 27 January 17 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, Sneinton was a rather "rough" area of Nottingham at that time! The witnesses on the marriage certificate are William and Martha Warsop.

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Friday 27 January 17 15:36 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, I meant to say Eliza and Sarah are the same age.

He was born in Nottingham, Nottingham - Sneinton Parish.

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The Common Room / Re: Under the Radar
« on: Friday 27 January 17 15:34 GMT (UK)  »
On the 1881 census he is 26. He seems to be married to Eliza, but I think this is a mistake and Sarah has been confused with Eliza, the daughter. The older Eliza is the same as as Sarah Ann.
On the 1891 census he is 38 and Sarah is 37
On the 1901 census he is 45!! and Sarah is 44!
Both Alfred and Sarah appear to have been illiterate as the marriage certificate just bears both their marks.

Never though about the illigitimatacy angle. That's interesting!

Pete

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