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Thanks for all the responses. A lot of food for thought. The one definite is Minnie. We have enough family photos to recognise her instantly. She is standing at the back in the wedding photo and on the right in the older photo. We know for a fact also the other older lady (L) is her sister Nellie. She actually was quite fair, while Minnie was olive skinned. Anyway, I am sure with all the info gleaned from this discussion, we may be able to eventually identify the seated lady. Unfortunately at this stage we have no other photos of the gent. The main thing I wanted was a rough idea on date range and your insights have helped with this so thank you  :)

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Thanks Gadget and Carol, your insights have been very helpful. I totally agree the gent and Minnie at the back definitely look alike, so am certain they are brother and sister. Maybe the woman seated is his bride, and not Minnie's sister Nellie. If you ladies are good at facial recognition, here is a photo of Nellie(L) and Millie (R) a number of years later. I personally can see a resemblance between Nellie in the wedding shot and the older Nellie is this shot though.

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Thanks. I think though if you look closely its not a hat but her hair and the flowers a wreath. I just read that orange blossom wreaths were all the rage and the hair was usually in an upswept big mass (cant think of the proper word). If you scroll down the link, you actually see the waxed orangeblossom headress in a box.

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Hi Gadget,
Ive just blown it up but can't make out an outline of a ring. Ive just been Googling Edwardian wedding fashion and discovered they did indeed have bridesmaids. Interestingly the bridesmaids wore big hats while the bride had a white veil or white hat. Apparently white was all the rage for the bride. Another interesting bit I gleaned was the bouquet was invariably very big and trailing. She is holding a small spray, which again is making me wonder if she was his sister and not the bride. Oh how I wish they wrote names on the back of the photos!! Would save so much speculation!

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Thanks Peter,
Yes that is my drift of thought too. I am pursuing that possibility and have discovered one of Minnie's brothers married in 1906, with Minnie's sister Nellie, a witness on the certificate. So it is very possible it is picture of Minnie and Nellie with their newly married brother. To me the women look more like bridesmaids (especially the one seated) than the bride, that is why I am asking if anyone knows a thing or too about Edwardian wedding fashion and etiquette. Gadget's tip about the hats being a short term fashion statement between 1906-10 makes sense and would fit the possible scenario. Also would a bride wear such a hat?

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Thanks for the reply. Believe me if I had the actual photo I would have ensured I had the whole image when scanning, including the embossed writing. The image I have is an electronic copy from a cousin, so am in the process of finding out who has the original. Yes its definitely Edwardian, but was wondering if anyone can judge by the fashion whether it was closest to 1900 or later say 1915. Minnie Griffin (at back) emigrated to Adelaide, Australia in Oct 1915, so the photo had to be taken before then. Just wanting to get an idea from the style of the dresses and hats what decade. Also is the dress on the woman sitting, a bridal dress? Did they have bridesmaids in that era? Trying to figure out if the three were siblings at a wedding, or if the front couple are the newlyweds.

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Could someone please give an idea of date for this photo which I'm guessing is a wedding, due to the flowers in the hand of the woman sitting. There is a bit of confusion between family members as to who is in the photo. Either a couple who we know married in Australia or a couple who married in England. However, I have noticed at the bottom there is an embossed imprint of the photographer, which looks like Eastbourne? This could then put the photo as possibly being taken in England, somewhere around Eastbourne, Sussex.

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I did some Googling this afternoon and found a photo with 6 men wearing the exact same uniform. They were from the South Australian Mounted Rifles 1897. I have now emailed the SA Military Museum in the hope they can confirm it is the Mounted Rifle unit or another.

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