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Armagh / Re: Armagh Early 1800s
« on: Sunday 19 March 06 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
No

All land was held either by rich landowners or the crown

The papers you mention are probably lease or tithe documents. They will show the owner of the land and the amount of rent or tithe to be paid. Some show voting records too.

Where George 3rd is mentioned it means the crown are the title holders. Sometimes there is confusion because the land has been sublet

The landholders who arranged to rent large tracts of land and then sublet to poorer (often catholic) tenants were hated by the local population.

When a lease was taken you could name 3 other people who were entitled to farm the land until they died. The land then reverted to the owner. It was common to name your youngest son so that the family could hold on to the land as long as possible. When they died however the family would be forced out and that is probably the reason your ancestors left.

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Monaghan / JOHN HILLIS of Co MONAGHAN
« on: Sunday 12 March 06 18:09 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone give me information about a family called Hillis living in Co Monaghan about turn of 18th Cent. They were probably living close to the border with Co Armagh

A son John Hillis was probably born between 1820 and 1830 and was still alive in 1858 when he was named as executor of my GGGGf's will

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: BLOCK Streatham/Mitcham/Wandsworth
« on: Sunday 12 March 06 12:28 GMT (UK)  »
Catherine

John Block was born about 1835. He worked as a blacksmith. I have his death certificate dated 4th May 1891. It says he was a labourer and at the time of his death living in Mitcham.

His wife was Louisa Evans. They were living in Wimbledon when their son Sidney was born. I have his birth certificate dated 16th November 1873.

Sidney married Elizabeth Heavens in 1901. They lived in Streatham and then Tooting. Their 3 children were Louisa (5th Jan 1903), John 1904, and May (1st May 1907).

They both died soon after. May was adopted by her aunt Caroline in Tooting. The others may have been taken into care - we are still investigating their background.

Louisa was my grandmother.

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: BLOCK Streatham/Mitcham/Wandsworth
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 20:45 GMT (UK)  »
I am descended from the Block family of Streatham.

My GGGf is John Block, GGf Sidney Block and Gm was Louise Block. My Gt Aunt May Block has just died aged 99!

Is this the family you are looking for?

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Down / PRESTONS from ARMAGH/DOWN
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
I would appreciate any information about Preston families in East Down/Armagh for a family name web site.

Any Preston name on BMD certificate, church records or cemetery list would be helpful.

Connected names in Newry are Carson and McClure.

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Down / Re: DOUGAN, John and Agnes
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 19:03 GMT (UK)  »
My GGGf was a John Dougan. A farmer from I think Knockavannon. I dont know his wife's name. His Daughter Mary married my GGf James Preston.


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Armagh / PRESTONS of ARMAGH
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 18:54 GMT (UK)  »
Can I please have information about all Preston families originating in South Armagh to add to a Web page.

Most were from Tullyvallen township, Some in Newtownhamilton itself and others in surrounding farms and spreading towards Newry.

In particular I would appreciate any BMD certificates that name a Preston and details of any church or cemetary records

Connecting families include Hawthorn, Bell, Rainey, Dougan, Carson, McClure (all Armagh)  and Hillis (Monaghan)

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Armagh / Re: Carson of Newtownhamilton/Newry
« on: Wednesday 08 March 06 18:42 GMT (UK)  »
I may be able to help you

We are originally from Newtownhamilton. My Great grandfather married a girl called Letitia Carson, the daughter of Robert Carson. Robert was a farmer and his wife was Anne Hanna.

Letitia was born in Lisdrummard on 5th July 1849

She married my GGF in the Presbyterian church in Sandys Street, Newry in 1876.

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