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Family History Beginners Board / Delves of Kent and Sussex
« on: Saturday 31 December 16 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,
I am living in New Zealand and I am a first generation New Zealander, my family's roots are in England, in Yorkshire(Hull) on my father's side and in the South( Rye, Hastings Tonbridge and Fairlight)and the South West(Bath and environs) on my mother's side.

I have just become aware of Roots Chat and I saw in one of the discussion forums that there were people interested in the Delves of Sussex. The name Delves appears in several original documents I have that came with the family from England to NZ in 1921. I am interested to know if anyone recognises any of the names listed below as belonging to their family. It may also be of interest to someone to know that I may have information relating to their family in documents such as wills that I have. The first reference to Delves is as a surname, it later appears as a middle name by way of retaining the family name. To keep it brief and to quote:-

Jos(ep)h Delves was born Oct 23rd 1753
Susannah Hay was born June 5th 1753
were married Dec 18th 1775 at Tonbridge Church

1776 Oct Anne Delves was born:christened Dec 6th
1777 Dec 14th Rich(ar)d Delves was born:Christened Jan 11th 1778
1779 Mary Delves was born Aug 20th: christd 19th Septr
1780 Sarah Delves was born Oct 22nd: christd Nov 19th
1781 Elizabeth Delves was born 20th Sept: died Feb 8th 1872 aged 5 m
1782 Oct 19th Jane Delves was born christd Nov 17th d Dec 12th 1783 (13 months)
1784 Frances Delves was born July 1st departed this life Dec 20th 1784 (5 months)
1785 Thomas Delves was born May 15th died the same day
1786 Sophia Delves was born May 6th christd June 20th
1787 Henry Delves was born March 18th christd 15 April
1788 Jane Delves was born August 27th
1790 Jos(ep)h Delves was born Novr 21 died Novr 28th 1791
1793 July 8th on Monday Jos(ep)h Delves was born

Mary Delves above is my great great great grandmother and she married Edward Chatterton (Born 26th March 1767) on the 29th October 1801 they had 7 children (name and birth date and time born all recorded)one of whom was my great great grandfather Joseph Delves Chatterton(to quote) Born 26th July 1804 at 10 oclock in the morning. If anyone is interested in these connections, please let me know as I may have more information of interest to you.

Regards Kate

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: The Thorpe family of Fairlight
« on: Thursday 29 December 16 00:55 GMT (UK)  »
Roger, a further quick reply to your page to access the personal message facility. I have found another long list of the Delves family, a name I also noted people were interested in in Sussex, in and around Fairlight, Hastings and Rye and I will post some information of potential interest to them. I think however, you are interested in researching other surnames in your genealogy, non of which I am familiar with.

Regards  Kate

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: The Thorpe family of Fairlight
« on: Thursday 29 December 16 00:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Roger,

Sending you best wishes for a Happy New Year. My great uncle Spencer (Pem) would have been very happy to know we have made contact!

Regards  Kate

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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: The Thorpe family of Fairlight
« on: Saturday 24 December 16 07:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Roger,

Firstly, Seasons Greeting to you ! My name is Kate And I live in NZ. Both my father's and mother's sides of the family emigrated here, my father emigrating here in 1951 and my mother's family emigrated here in 1921. In the early 1990's my parents and I (I was living and working in Manchester in law) went on extended tours of the UK, visiting places of interest to both sides of the family (my father's roots are in  Hull Yorkshire and my mother's in the South of England, Fordham, Hastings, Rye and Fairlight). To keep things brief for this introduction, on our return from these trips, my Great Uncle Spencer Chatterton (he was my mother's uncle)brought out an old tin trunk that traveled with his family from the UK to NZ in the early 1920's. A lot of old wills and lists of births, deaths and marriages from family bibles etc came to light and much research at the time was carried out, as the wealth of these documents became apparent. It has been a long time since I have looked at these documents and I don't know what prompted me but I googled Thorpe Fairlight Sussex UK the other day while revisiting these documents, and Roots Chat with your postings came up.It is immediately clear to me that your family and mine have connections to the same family. As I say, I have a folder full of original documents of the family's which I have transcribed and kept as copies with the originals. I would be more than happy to have these documents scanned and the copies sent to you for your information. As an example I set out a part transcript of a long list of the Chatterton- Thorpe connection that was set out in a single document, by whom it is not clear but it is very detailed:-

CHATTERTON Joseph Delves Born at Rye July  261804 supposed bap(tised) at Wersham or Pevensly died August 3 1857.    Married

THORPE  Harriette Stonham  April 12 1814 at Fairlight " (married) Church Fairlight bap at do(same). Died at 15 Frederisco (n) Place Mile End Road on Sunday morning at 1/4 past nine Jany 14th 1872.

Children:-

CHATTERTON James Thorpe Born 3. Oct 1832 Bap Fairlight Church at Rye died 10 Octr 1862.

do                 Joseph Delves  Born 2 Sep 1834       "     Rye      "

do                 Edward Stonham Born 22 Sepr 1838   bap Bow  "   

do                 Edgar                 Born 5 July 1840   bap Bow    "   died 4 Decr 1841

do                 Spencer              Born 24 June 1842   bap Bolvendew(?)   named at Bow.

do                 Harriette             Born 27 Octr 1846 Bap at Bow died 20 April 1862.

do                 Jane   supposed b. 9 or 10 Sep 1848  bap at Bow named at Bow at (?) died May 1849

do                 William                Born same week that Aunt Dillow (/) was married at Bow named at (?)  dead living about 3 days.

do                  Peter                    Born 27 April 1852 Bap at Bow    (this is my great grandfather)

Grandfather   CHATTERTON   Edward       died at Rye about 1846 buried at Rye
Grandmother DELVES Mary                     Born and died at T.W buried at Fairlight Church   
Grandfather   THORPE  James Manser        Born 13 April 1777 at Fairlight Married 2 or 3 Feb 1812 Died 10 Sepr 1855 buried at Fairlight.
Grandmother  THORPE Harriette Stonham   Born 26 Septr 1778 at Beckley  Sussex. Died May 1853.Buried at Fairlight.

Children of THORPE-

Harriette                 as above (that is  Harriette Stonham born April 12 1814)
Sarah Mary             Born 17 Octr 1815 at Fairlight Bap at Fairlight Married at Fairlight 17 Octr 1835
to John SMALLFIELD Born 12 Aug 1813 at Willersham (?) Kent.
As you can see it is possible to track the family's move from Sussex, to Bow in London, in the mid 1800's. I also noted another poster was interested in the DELVES connection, it is here also. The documents are many, for example there is correspondence between JANE MANSER (nee THORPE) SMALLFIELD and her Aunt MARY THORPE dated Brighton 4th (?) 1829 and Fairlight Sepr 11th 1829. It names several other family members and is a invaluable snapshot of the family interactions and concerns(relating to farming, the Brighton Fair for example) and wider contemporary social events.

I will leave this here and look forward to hearing from you in the New Year. Again I am happy to forward one way or another, any documents you maybe interested in as regards the family connections. I am sure this will find you an enthusiastic (if not surprised!!!) recipient
With regards  Kate.

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