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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Sunday 15 January 23 09:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jeanne,
I live in Adelaide, South Australia.
We are going to Bright in October this year so might check out Wandiligong.
I don't think your family are my Griffiths, but it is hard to say. I have found out that there are relations all from Coity, near Bridgend in Wales. They are not on my husband's Don immediate line but are related by DNA. There was a William in that lot born 1787 married to Sarah Truman. They were stonemasons and I would say that he was a brother of our great great great grandfather. Can't prove it of course but there would have to be siblings somewhere. The Coity lot had lots of children and some went to WA and some settled in Mt Larcombe near Gladstone in Qld. I honestly am at a loss what happened to our original pioneer's family. They might have all died from typhoid! The maternal side of our pioneer was Sarah Barber Jones and I've since found from DNA that some Jones went and settled in Sebastopol near Ballarat.
Anyway I am happy to keep looking …it’s like a big jigsaw and I've always liked jigsaws!
Happy New Year to you too! Barbara Griffiths

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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Thursday 26 May 22 12:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi genie56,
Isn’t that strange, I was just commenting to my brother who is an ancestry buff, that I had virtually given up hope of finding my husband Don’s ancestors in Wales.. that is, the Griffiths side.
Have you done your DNA genie56? I have been doing Don’s tree in Ancestry and there are 566 cousins 5-7 generations ago. There are only 4 Griffiths in a closer relationship but 2 can’t be members anymore as they have not replied to my queries. These Griffiths are obviously not in a direct line as they come from Pembrokeshire, Coity, Bridgend, Shropshire and London. Somewhere in the 1700’s there must have been the family which they came from.
Your area sounds right. From the little information I have had from family, they lived above Cardiff area of Wales, and they travelled to and from the Smelters in Swansea. Charles Barber Griffiths jnr wrote his memoirs and he says it is what his father, Charles Barber senior told him. This man migrated as a child with his father John Griffiths, our Pioneer in Burra. They were all stone masons. The story though may be a mix of fiction and fact. One cousin said they lived in the Aron? Valley? John allegedly chopped off his trigger finger so he would not have to go to the Crimean War as he had a young family. He then migrated to Australia in 1855. His 5 brothers all died in the Crimean War except David who was the youngest. It was said he returned to find all his family gone so he went to Burra too but was still suffering from dysentery and returned to Wales where he died????There was also supposed to be 2 young sisters Ruth and Gwendoline but ??? I have not found any of them anywhere!!
I will have a look at the Census you said and explore that area.
If you can help at all that would be great.
Do you live in Wales? We did go to Swansea to see if we could find anyone but we didn’t.
I am writing to a Linda Griffiths in London. We thought it was her late husband who was related but it’s actually Linda and she was an Ahern. I also write to the Jones side in Swansea,,so that is one good thing! Hope to hear from you. Barbara

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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Tuesday 29 October 19 03:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Osprey...no, the father is definitely John! It's strange I can't find them either. The Pioneer John and Sarah who migrated are the ones in 1851 Census in Ebenezer St, but all his siblings and parents must be somewhere you would think?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Thursday 24 October 19 22:58 BST (UK)  »
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Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 23:58 »
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Yes, you are all correct with your findings! Thank you!
It is the rest of the family I am interested in...the ones left behind.
Has anyone access to the Crimean War records. From my understanding there were very few records of casualties. Henry, William, Phillip, Francis and David all went but only David returned. They were all born after my Pioneer John and David was almost too young to go. It seems the British went around the smelters and they all signed up. I also cannot find their parents or the family in the 1841 Census
 or 1851 Census except for Pioneer John and Sarah Barber in Ebenezer St. Where was the rest of the family? A short side track:- in a book a family member wrote it said they were friends with Thomas Wilks and this man lived in Higher and lower Llansamlet before they migrated to Burra.
I believe the rest of the family lived in Glamorgan...possibly Swansea too.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Wednesday 23 October 19 23:58 BST (UK)  »
Yes, you are all correct with your findings! Thank you!
It is the rest of the family I am interested in...the ones left behind.
Has anyone access to the Crimean War records. From my understanding there were very few records of casualties. Henry, William, Phillip, Francis and David all went but only David returned. They were all born after my Pioneer John and David was almost too young to go. It seems the British went around the smelters and they all signed up. I also cannot find their parents or the family in the 1841 Census
 or 1851 Census except for Pioneer John and Sarah Barber in Ebenezer St. Where was the rest of the family? A short side track:- in a book a family member wrote it said they were friends with Thomas Wilks and this man lived in Higher and lower Llansamlet before they migrated to Burra.
I believe the rest of the family lived in Glamorgan...possibly Swansea too.

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Glamorganshire / Griffiths Family in Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Wednesday 23 October 19 11:41 BST (UK)  »
John Griffiths, born Swansea 1818-1821, a stonemason at Swansea smelters, married Sarah Barber Jones in 1844 in St Marys, Swansea and migrated to Burra, South Australia in 1855 with 4 children.
John was the eldest of 6 brothers William, Henry, Phillip, Francis and David and two sisters Gwendoline and Ruth. All the brothers allegedly served in the Crimean War and only David returned but seriously ill with dysentery. He followed his brother John to Burra but returned to die in Wales.
I cannot find any record of the brothers or sisters or parents John and either Sarah or Mary back in Wales. Any suggestions?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Griffiths Family, stonemasons of Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Tuesday 21 February 17 09:20 GMT (UK)  »
Have been away so not been doing much Ancestry. However I do think I have found Sarah Griffiths, born 1830. She was living with William and her mother in 1851 when the Census was taken in March but I believe she married John Jones, born 1831, in 1851. They had two sons John born 1853 and William 1855. They are in the 1861 census in Llanguick but can't find them in 1871. Still looking for William, her brother.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Griffiths Family, stonemasons of Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Saturday 11 February 17 10:03 GMT (UK)  »
Our John Griffiths, mason, who migrated in 1855 and died in South Australia, is definitely the son of John Griffiths, a mason also. At John's marraige to Sarah Barber Jones in 1844 in Swansea, it states that John was living in New Street! WHY WASN'T HE WITH HIS MOTHER IN WELLINGTON STREET Swansea at the time? He said his father was a mason but not necessarily alive at the time, as Sarah's father was said to be Thomas and a butcher but he was definitely deceased! There is a John Griffiths record of death for 1839. It was interesting to note that in the marraige record there was no mention of any of his family!
In the 1841 Census in Wellington St, Sarah is there with John, William and Sarah...all Griffiths. Yes, there is a big gap between John and William. Why? Perhaps there were miscarraiges, perhaps another marraige! 
In the 1851 census...only Sarah, William and Sarah...mother is a "mason's widow" are left in Wellington Street. John is living in Ebenezer Street with our Sarah and children before they migrate.
This doesn't explain William's disappearance...I just can't find him at present...nor Sarah for that matter. Any other thoughts?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Griffiths Family, stonemasons of Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.
« on: Friday 10 February 17 21:36 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that is my Sarah Griffiths! In the Census it says she is from Anston in Pembrokeshire but not such a place I believe, and on closer examination of the writing of the census on different websites it looks like Ambra! The family are also on the 1841 Welsh census ...again without husband/father John and she is of "Ind" category. They are living in Wellington Street in 1841 also.
I would imagine Sarah, a straw bonnet maker, would be married by the 1861
Census and William also. Perhaps William migrated overseas somewhere like his older brother John who also was a mason and built beautiful buildings in Burra, South Australia.

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