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Worcestershire / Re: WATSON'S of Bengeworth/Evesham
« on: Wednesday 04 November 20 22:35 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Barry
I'm interested in a possible link with your Watsons. In the will of Jane Oswald of Weston in Zoyland in the County of Somersett widdowe (dated 22 Apr 1658; proved 29 Jun 1659), she mentions "cozen John Watson". Then, in 1662, there was an Indenture between her son, James Oswald, and "Thomas Watson of Bengworth in the County of Woster gent" (amongst others). Jane Oswald was the sister of Thomas Crompton of Lincoln's Inn, who died in 1655. Have you come across any Cromptons by any chance?
Kind regards
Ted

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Ireland / Re: William John Gilbert: his siblings and his children
« on: Sunday 18 December 16 15:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jenni - agreed, the DNA matching gets less useful as the generation distances increase and, it seems to me, there was quite a lot of intermarrying between families at that time, so one can never be quite sure if a link is through a known/likely historical route or an unknown one. Yes, my DNA is on GEDmatch. Best, Ted

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Ireland / Re: William John Gilbert: his siblings and his children
« on: Saturday 17 December 16 17:44 GMT (UK)  »
I believe this Henry Gilbert (by his wife Ann Douglas) is the father of the John Gilbert who married Sarah Douglas.  Henry died in 1847 aged 90 and his wife Ann died in 1828 aged 69.

I checked George Douglas Gilbert and Helena Harpur's marriage certificate yesterday and this give George's father as 'John Gilbert, Gentleman'. This may already have been established, but I haven't seen it amongst the posts. Also, there is another son of George and Helena who has not been mentioned - Henry Edward Gilbert. He was born in Liverpool on 14th Dec 1875 (I have the birth certificate) and emigrated to Canada, where he died in 1912; he was a Methodist Preacher. A granddaughter of his had her DNA analysed by 'ancestry' and it came up with a match to me and my father (4th to 6th cousin, confidence 'high' to my father and 'good' to me). We are descended from Henry Gilbert and Ann Douglas (through their daughter Anne, who married William Hamilton) and if the John Gilbert who married Sarah Douglas is the son of Henry Gilbert and Ann Douglas (the circumstantial evidence is very strong), this would make Henry Edward Gilbert's granddaughter my 4th cousin once removed. I haven't seen any other names in her ancestry that suggest the DNA link is through another family. Thus the DNA evidence strongly supports the circumstantial evidence that the John Gilbert who married Sarah Douglas was the son of Henry (c1757-1847).

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Ireland / Re: William John Gilbert: his siblings and his children
« on: Wednesday 07 December 16 21:42 GMT (UK)  »
In support of Gilby's speculation:
"If I had to take a (somewhat unsubstantiated) guess I’d say Henry the yarn merchant was son of John, son of Henry, son of Jonathan, son of Jonathan and Ann."
Lurgan Town Rental List 1763-1766 (http://www.lurganancestry.com/lurgand1763p1.htm)
John Gilbert for tenement next to market house. Renewable for £1:8:0. 1738 for the life of Henry McClatchy, son of Samuel. He died lately in artillery.

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