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Dumfriesshire / Re: Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Monday 28 November 16 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
I have now checked the Marriage Certificate Joseph Turnbull married Elizabeth Smithwhite on 13th August 1874. He was 19 and she was 21.  His occupation if I am reading it correctly is a Labourer. His Father is listed as Thomas (Deceased) and is a Labourer.

I can see where my Son went wrong. But try as I might I cannot find a single piece of information linking Joseph to Thomas and  his place of Birth. My husband is going to join another Ancestry site and see what we can find. My son is coming in the morning but I doubt he will have time to look.

I am so frustrated and so sorry I have given out the wrong information and wasted everyone's time. I am so grateful for all your  kind suggestions. Not being at all experienced in looking for information I left it all to my Son. I really do not know where to begin and where I look,  following links on  Ancestry leads me up the wrong path.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Saturday 26 November 16 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
I am away from home at the moment and will not be back home until Monday for me to check the Marriage Certificate. But I am sure it just says Thomas deceased.  It could well be my Joseph but I do not know. A cousin I rang this morning said that the family had links with Galashiels. How on earth could he have ended up in Glasgow. I have no one in my family who can tell us as our Nanna Died when we were young I was only four at the time. But If only the records my Uncle had had not been stolen along with the family bible I may have had something to go on. My husband just tonight said we should check the local paper archive for announcements of the forthcoming marriage of Joseph to Elizabeth, and also at the Church. Problem is the Church is unknown to me as it was just listed as a Catholic Chapel. But I was told my Nanna was baptised in the Church of England and was raised as such. This Catholic Chapel, is not know even by my husband who is a Catholic himself. A lot of Churches in South Shields have long since gone and some of the records have been sent to Durham Cathedral, according to my friends husband, but does that include Catholic and other denominations in the local area? We will pay a visit to our new local library who have records of Churches, Burial Grounds, along with lots of of other records like local census and streets etc. As it is newly opened I will have to find out who can help us look for the right records. In the meanwhile I will certainly look into the information you have given me and see what comes of it. Thank you.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Saturday 26 November 16 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
I have just this morning remembered being told when I was a young child, that Joseph was supposedly lost as a little boy and somehow if true he had climbed onto a cart and fell asleep? If what I have been told is true he could have been found and looked after by a woman somewhere in Scotland until his family were found. He next from what I can learn ended up in North Shields? he would have been in his teens. Marrying Elizabeth Smithwhite when he was 19 in South Shields. His marriage certificate says he was from Scotland? So all in all it is a huge mystery. My cousins and I were very young when we were told this and non of us can remember any exact details. None of what I have just said is provable as my Cousins would have all been told similar stories. Joseph died before my Mother was born so everything must have come from my Nanna. Could it be he was from a Gypsy family? I remember my Mother telling me his parents travelled around local villages and put on a travelling light/lantern show? She danced while Thomas? played an intrument of some sort I really cannot remember much at all but spoke to a Cousin who is my age and she seems to recall the story of him being lost and that the family had connections to Galshiels. My Nanna would have told my Mother and the rest of the family the story of her Father and my Aunts would have told their children my Cousins. I just wish I have something more concrete to work on.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Friday 25 November 16 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all so very much, I do have a Joseph Turnbull, My Nanna's Father who died about 1925 in South Shields. He did marry Elizabeth Smithwhite from South Shields. I have had other correspondence from someone via Ancestry today which near enough matches the information given by yourselves. I am sorry but it may appear my Son HAS got the wrong family. I feel embarrassed by it all as I have been chasing the wrong line via my Son. He cross matched everything and was convinced he was right. I am hoping to see a Cousin who has some family information but it might not be on the family I am looking for. My Uncle found the family but I was never told where?  ROSIE was correct the family did live in Adelaide Street South Shields where I believe my Nanna was born. I have got the marriage certificate of Joseph's marriage to Elizabeth Smithwhite he was 19 and she was 21, his Father was Thomas(deceased) I have no Elderly relatives alive who can assist me and My son does not have the time to search the records again to see where he went wrong as I now believe he is. So that leaves me with a puzzle. Where was Joseph Born, where was Thomas Turnbull his Father from? I am truly stuck in moving on from my limited information. Thank you for your input, I am not experienced at all in searching records and the family tree online is administered by my Son.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Thursday 24 November 16 23:35 GMT (UK)  »
John I have Joseph Turnbull's Birth Certificate and Marriage Certificate, on his Birth Certificate is Thomas listed as his Father. My Nanna is definitely the daughter of Joseph Turnbull, he was married at the age of 19 in South Shields. My Uncle years after my Great Grandfather died found the family and links were formed, and some of the family members visited South Shields. Something happened long before I was born and the family split. Plus we have the family tree matched to that of an online Genealogy site with members of my family linked direct to Joseph. Other family members have the same information as I have recently discovered. I am planning to visit Langholm some time next year and check out all the information that is available and maybe I might finally find Thomas Turnbulls's parents and information on his siblings.
I have tonight received an email from someone who actually lived in Langholm and the information he sent matched with what I have.

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Dumfriesshire / Re-Turnbull/Hounam from Langholm
« on: Thursday 24 November 16 00:21 GMT (UK)  »
My Great Great Grandparents were Thomas Turnbull born 1829 and Ann Hounam born 1829 in Langholm, Dumfries. I have found out they are both buried in Old Church Yard, Langholm. I know nothing about Thomas's parents, the only information I have was he died in 1861 in Langholm, and had six children. His Son Joseph born in 1855 is my Grandfather and he married Elizabeth Smithwhite in South Shields, Durham.
Could anyone help me with the parents and siblings of Thomas. As far as I know he was a boot/shoemaker in 1851, and lived in Drove Road. I need help in locating someone who knew the family or are related to Thomas or Ann.

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