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Reference Library / Re: DBSIG: British Home Children.
« on: Monday 04 September 17 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone. I would very much like to add my BHC but can't figure out how to do that. When I click on Add new record I get a message about PM's but my pm's are activated.

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Canada / Re: Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 15:59 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sandra. This is all stuff I have already as Matilda was my great-grandmother.  ;). Alice Pritchard is actually daughter Alice (so she may have been living with her at the time as Alice was living in Toronto where she died). This family was already my mystery: Charles just added to it with the possible home child discovery!

In 1891, all three girls are living with their parents. In 1901, the two oldest are "adopted daughters" of German speaking families. Can't find the youngest (Edith) or mother Elizabeth on this census. I believe I have found Charles (maybe) living in Toronto as "single". 1902, he married Sarah Jane Freel (definitely him as his parents are right), calling himself a "bachelor" and in 1911, he was living in Toronto with wife Sarah, claiming he was naturalized in 1901.

There is another part of this. My father (grandson of Matilda) remembers seeing a family tree as a child that had an aboriginal woman, living on the Bruce Peninsula, which is where Elizabeth was from (Keppel, Ontario). So there is a possibility that the girls were given to white families to raise.

Edited to add that it seems that Isabella was born in Ontario, despite some records indicating otherwise.

And all three girls had their biological parents on their marriage licenses.

Also Matilda's birth certificate lists her grandmother (i.e. Charles's mother) as her mother, rather than her actual mother.

Final addition: the German speaking adoptive families are related (the one adopted mother is the mother of the other)

1921 Owen Sound Grey Ontario

Elizabeth Flowers 37 (age should be 57)
Isabella Bayliss   83 Born 1838 England.

Isabella passed away 26 May 1926 - Grey Ontario.

Isabella is shown on find a grave but some details on Elizabeth are incorrect  ::)

FIND A GRAVE

Isabella Lougheed Baylis

Burial - Greenwood Cemetery  Owen Sound Grey County Ontario.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=40727455&ref=acom

Sandra

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Canada / Re: Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 15:12 BST (UK)  »
Whoops sorry: I thought that 75 years was the rule for copyright.

Not if the image came from a subscription site. Small portions are allowed for deciphering purposes as Sandra has posted.

Thanks for removing it.
No problem. My apologies.

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Canada / Re: Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 14:30 BST (UK)  »
Whoops sorry: I thought that 75 years was the rule for copyright.

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Canada / Re: Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Have you checked the 1881 Canadian Census ?

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1804541

Sandra

I have, and was unable to find him.

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Canada / Re: Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 14:27 BST (UK)  »
In the LAC home children database he's been transcribed as Thomas Flowers


http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=8067

Interesting: do they get that information from the passenger records or somewhere else? I have looked at the passenger record and it really looks like Chas to me (and has to a transcriber as well but I can't remember where I saw that).

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Canada / Help please: possible British home child: Charles Edward Flowers 1862-1927
« on: Saturday 29 October 16 02:35 BST (UK)  »
Hello.

I believe I have a British home child in my tree. Assuming I am right:
Charles Edward Flowers
Born: 1862 in England, living in Spitalfields with his family in 1871 (parents: Henry Flowers, and Matilda Myers)
I *think* his father Henry died around 1873
1875: I found a Chas Flowers, age 13 on the Prussian, arriving in Quebec in July.

This appears to be a ship carrying home children for Annie MacPherson.

He married Elizabeth Bayless in 1887 who was from Keppel (and he was living in Owen Sound) (both in Grey County, Ontario).

What I can't figure out is where he was in the meantime (1875-1887). I know that there are a couple of options as to the institution and that he would have probably been placed on a farm somewhere. Any ideas?

Thanks!

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