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Scotland / Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« on: Sunday 01 July 18 13:43 BST (UK)  »
Annie

Please ignore all references to Daniel Carlton - I very carelessly read the wrong line on the death certificate. Elizabeth McInnes's death was reported by her brother, Archibald Cowan from Paisley.

My apologies

When Elizabeth died Agnes would only have been 18, and I wonder if she would have been fostered to another relative or gone into service somewhere. There were various relatives living in Paisley and I will now search Valuation Rolls for clues. Plus, Agnes Irons nee Wlson, who was a sister of Agnes Cowan's natural mother Margaret Cowan nee Wilson was at that time living in Chicago with her husband James Irons. I will also check passenger lists to see if Agnes Cowan / McInnes was shipped out to the States.

Once again, thanks for your help.

Ian

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Scotland / Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« on: Saturday 30 June 18 14:30 BST (UK)  »
Annie

Thanks for your input, and apologies for taking so long to get back to you.

I have found no record of John and Elizabeth McInnes having children of their own.

The informant for Elizabeth's death - Paisley 1934 - was Daniel Carlton, someone I have no knowledge of. John's death informant was his brother Thomas.

James Cowan (1879 - 1934) was Elizabeth Mcinnes's brother. Parents were John Cowan (1840 - 1923) and Janet Cowan nee Gardener (1840 - 1919). John and Janet has the following other children - Agnes, John, Hugh and Colin.

I have no knowledge of Agnes having married and extensive searches on Scotland's People using both the Cowan and McInnes surnames have drawn a blank.

Ian

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Scotland / Re: Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« on: Thursday 28 June 18 11:48 BST (UK)  »
Annie - I have searched these variants on Scotland's People without any success.

Shanghaipanda - the birth year does not fit and "my" Agnes had no middle name. Also, family gossip has it that she was alive at least until the 1960's, if not longer.

Thank you both for your help.

Ian

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Scotland / Agnes Cowan / McInnes (?) - Frustrating Lack Of Success
« on: Wednesday 27 June 18 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Agnes Cowan was born in Toronto in 1916 to James and Margaret Cowan, both of whom emigrated from Paisley. Margaret died in 1920 in Canada, and James, Agnes and John (my father, born Toronto in 1914) came back to North Street, Paisley, Scotland in 1921 on the Saturnia. Sometime between 1921 and 1930 Agnes was fostered to John McInnes (1864 - 1931) a Paisley publican and Elizabeth McInnes / nee Cowan (1868 - 1934). I have a family photo dated 1930 with Agnes and "stepfather" John McInnes. I can trace the full history of James, Margaret and John Cowan, plus John and Elizabeth McInnes, but not a trace of Agnes in Scotland's People, Find My Past or Ancestry using both Cowan and McInnes surnames.

I have had help in earlier threads regarding James Cowan. Can anyone offer any suggestions regarding Agnes? I would be very grateful. Many thanks in advance.

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Thanks for this information, which I already have. The problem is that there were at least 3 generations of Robert Duncans living in Overton Row. Susan Duncan was my Grandmother and Isabella was my Auntie Bella.

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Thanks for this. I should have searched for name variants, but the Scottish Mining site was pretty clear, and quoted from 2 newspapers. The Robert ScanLIN was indeed the fireman who died in the pit accident. The place of death is indecipherable but seem to indicate a pit. There is also an indecipherable note in the margin.

PS: To compound my carelessness I also erroneously posted this in the Argyllshire section.

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Argyllshire / An Ayrshire Coal Mining Death - Robert Scanlon Or Robert Duncan
« on: Monday 12 June 17 12:30 BST (UK)  »
I am currently researching my mother's mother's side of the family, who were coal mining Duncans who lived at various addresses on Overton Row, Dreghorn from the early-mid 1800's onwards. Overton Colliery was owned by Merry & Cunningham from about 1860, and I discovered, on the Scottish Mining web site, that in July 1898 "Robert Scanlon, an Overton fireman, was killed yesterday while engaged in the pit there. He was going his rounds as usual, but, unknown to some brushers who were blasting, he came on a shot just as it exploded, as was killed instantaneously."

I have searched high and low on Scotland's People for a Robert Scanlon without success, except for the 1891 Census, which shows a "Robert Scanlon" aged 3 living in Springhill Row, Dreghorn. The father, William Scanlon, is listed as a Colliery Fireman. Presumably this is a coincidence and not the Robert Scanlon who was killed in 1898.

However, in my own tree there is a Jane Scanlon, who gave birth to an illegitimate son in April 1866. The boy - named as Robert Duncan on the Statutory Register - was born at 6 Overton Row, Dreghorn and the father is named as Robert Duncan, a coal miner. Robert and Jane later married.

When I search Scotland's People for the death of a Robert Scanlon - giving 5 years leeway and covering all Counties - I get zero results. When I do the same search for Robert Duncan, there are plenty of names but nothing where the age, year and location match.

The 1871 Census Shows Robert and Janet (sic) Duncan living at 23(?) Overton Row, with sons Robert (age 5) and George (2).

I can also find nothing of relevance in Find My Past regarding Robert Scanlon or Robert Duncan, except the same Census entry.

Can anyone out there help? Is the illegitimate Robert Duncan born in 1866 the Robert Scanlon who was killed in 1898? Has the Scottish Mining web site got it wrong? Am I missing something in my search of Scotlands People? Any hints and clues, or even answers, will be much appreciated.

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Canada / Re: Immigration To Canada In Early Twentieth Century
« on: Tuesday 23 May 17 16:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi JDC - I have already examined his service records. Volunteered in 1916, called up in 1917 and served as a sapper in England and France until returning to Toronto in 1919. After various family tragedies he returned to Scotland in 1921. Thanks for your interest.

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Canada / Re: Immigration To Canada In Early Twentieth Century
« on: Saturday 22 April 17 11:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to both posters - Ian

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