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Thanks so much for this Mulberry Rose, this is great that you have found out a bit more to the continuing story.
Yes, I was aware of the marriage to John Morrison of what may have been this Ellen.  I looked the marriage up and I think I posted the details on here somewhere pre covid. 
I did not know of the death year of Tibby though, I wonder if she was buried at St Mary the Virgin Morpeth as our mutual blood line ancestor Mary Conroy was?  I know son Edward Conroy was buried there as well.  Just as an aside I wonder if Edward’s brother and your ancestor Joseph Conroy was buried there, too?  Or is his burial still unknown?
That is sad to hear that Tibby ended her days in the Poor house.  What a hard life she must have had, seemingly bringing up a family on her own (partner Michael doesn’t seem to have been around much) and losing her son Michael for good when he was sent to Australia.   That is sad too that she lost her daughter Sarah at such a young age.
I didn’t know that Tibby had an alias as an Elizabeth.  I think I recall that she had an older daughter too and I think the daughter may have been called Elizabeth.  I would have to recheck.
I wonder if Jane really did marry a Best or if she just pretended to be a married woman? I wonder if Jane had a sad end too, I wouldn’t be surprised. 
Thanks again, I really appreciate all your help.

Added:  This is what I found re Ellen Anderson’s marriage:
Ellen Allen marriage to John Morrison
22 August 1857, St Nicholas, Newcastle
She was recorded as 'a hawker' but then a line was crossed over these words.
Her father was recorded as Michael Allen - a hawker

Her husband John was a cartman and his Father Robert was also recorded as a cartman.
Their witnesses were William Watson and Isabella Kelly.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=784673.0
A direct descendant of Michael Allen – ‘Suryniji’ posted on this thread but sadly they have not been back on here since.

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Thanks for this Mulberry Rose .. so it would seem like two sisters married the two brothers! :)

You are very good at sussing things out so I will ask if you can ever work out who the Andersons/Allens were who were charged in the Matfen Murder trial along with my Great x 2 Grandparents, please let me know.
They were Isabella 'Tibby' Anderson, her son Michael Allen and her two daughters Jane and Eleanor Anderson.
I did find  Newcastle marriage for what may have been the daughter Eleanor but as I recall I think she was going by the name of Ellen.
Father's name was given as Michael Allen.
I think Tibby herselfwas unmarried.
My Grt  x 2 Grandfather James said they were 'acquaintances'.
These Conroy/Miller/Campbell/Anderson families seem as though they are all interconnected with each other is various ways so I have wondered if Tibby was related to Jane who married Jacob.  I would have to check it out again but I think there was an early census where possibly this Jane was with Tibby and her family.
No pressure to check anything out but if you do ever discover if  Tibby was connected to Jane Anderson's family and not just some random Anderson who turned up - I would be very interested to hear about it. :)

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Northumberland / Re: Edith Handyside M. Alexander Turnbull Davis 1911
« on: Wednesday 30 July 25 18:41 BST (UK)  »
https://one-name.org/marriage-locator/

Marriage Locator indicates the venue for Alexander & Edith's 1911 marriage was St Hilda, Jesmond:

Sept quarter 1911 Vol 10b page 137

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Northumberland / Re: Isabella Campbell of High Callerton
« on: Wednesday 30 July 25 17:37 BST (UK)  »
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=791239.msg6471328#msg6471328

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215146680/jacob-miller

Hi Mulberry Rose,

I just wondered if the Isabella Campbell on the Millers memorial at St Alban, Earsdon may be connected to you?  She was the wife of a John Campbell.

There are links between the Conroy/Miller families and I think the Campbells too.
The Jacob & Jane Miller nee Anderson on this memorial were the parents of Isabella Conroy nee Miller who married Thomas Conroy son of my 2nd Grt Grandparents James & Elizabeth Conroy nee Fitzpatrick.  The above mentioned Millers' son Michael married Elizabeth Watson who was the daughter of James and Elizabeth's daughter Mary Watson nee Conroy.

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Jane Mulley b. 1874 North Shields
« on: Tuesday 01 July 25 17:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mulberry Rose,
I have updated the memorials of Mary Jane Mulley/Theodorakis  and her son Andrew with notices and also a newspaper photo for the latter.

By the way, do you think this Richard may be Mary Jane's maternal Grandfather?  I have added him on Find a Grave at Preston Cemetery, North Shields.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/284502760/richard-willan?createdMemorial=Yes

Entry 952
Richard Willan
Male
Age 74
Wood Turner
Camden Street
Burial 20 May 1883
Ceremony by R. E. (?), Curate of Tynemouth
Plot 5116 Consecrated

This appears to be his wife - burial at Preston Cemetery, too and it looks like their plots were very close together. They were Widower and Widow when they married.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/284503281/ursula-willan?createdMemorial=Yes

Entry 1005
Ursula Willan
Female
Age 71
Widow
Camden Street
Burial 15 January 1890
Plot 5114 cons

St Alban, Earsdon - Marriage
Entry 50
2 July 1855
Richard Willan & Ursula Wignell
His age 46 Her age 35
Widower & Widow
Artist
Fathers:
Richard Willan - Gentleman
John (Meloan?) - Master Mariner
Witnesses: Mary Hughes & William Blackett
All signed
By Banns



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Northumberland / Re: Mary Jane Mulley b. 1874 North Shields
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 19:57 BST (UK)  »
And lastly ...

Another child in the family?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/284431953/george-mulley?createdMemorial=Yes

Entry 2282
George Mulley
Boy
Age 3 months
Died in the Workhouse
Burial 19 April 1909
Ceremony by H. S. Hicks?
Plot 7200 B

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Jane Mulley b. 1874 North Shields
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 19:51 BST (UK)  »
Another child in the family?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/284431801/florencer-mulley

Entry 1841
Florence Mulley
Female
Age 6 months
Died in the Workhouse
Burial 3 Dec 1908
Ceremony by W. Hardy Johnson
Plot 7371N

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Jane Mulley b. 1874 North Shields
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 19:45 BST (UK)  »
I don't know if you have the full marriage info for parents Thomas and Mary Jane but if not here it is:

St Hilda, South Shields
Entry 424
21 June 1871
Thomas Mulley & Mary Jane Wylie
His age 38 Her age 39
Bachelor & Widow
Mariner
His residence South Shields
No residence recorded for Mary Jane
Fathers:
Thomas Mulley - Publican
Richard Wylie - Turner?
Witnesses: Hannah Ellen Watson (X her mark)& W. Preston
All signed names aside from witness Hannah
Banns
Ceremony by Thomas Rudd, Curate

Note: Father Richard noted as Wylie too on record on microfilm as I recall.

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Northumberland / Re: Mary Jane Mulley b. 1874 North Shields
« on: Saturday 28 June 25 19:34 BST (UK)  »
Brother Thomas?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/284431350/thomas-mulley?createdMemorial=Yes

Entry 1685
Thomas Mulley
Male
Age 10 months
Son of Thomas Mulley - Mariner
Dotwick? Street
Burial 12 June
Ceremony by Thomas Smith, Primitive Methodist Minister
Plot 3748 uncons

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